LARRY: laughing Pentecost began; but what do you see God doing right now? And then I want to tell the people how they can really pray and prophesy into it. So what – what is God speaking to you about what’s going on in the world right now?
HAKEEM: Larry, the Lord began to speak to me, even early this year, that He was going to bring an awakening.
LARRY: Yes.
HAKEEM: There was going to be, mass revival, that was going to sweep across the nation. And the Spirit of God said that He was going to bring such a wind of change that was going to bring unity, –
LARRY: Mm!
HAKEEM: that was going to bring peace, and that was going to bring righteousness. And the Lord said He was going to begin to start in Government, and there was going to be a changing of the guards. And I believe that what is happening right now is only a tipping point of revival that’s about to take place. What we’re seeing right now – in that gross darkness and disunity, and certain things that are happening – God was allowing me to understand that He was going to do the opposite; –
LARRY: Yeah.
HAKEEM: that this was just a place where God was going to raise up a prophetic generation, a prophetic people, and He’s going to release His prophetic Spirit, where they will rise up –
LARRY: Yeah.
HAKEEM: to the occasion, and begin to make a change. They will be voices of change, and that’s what God said. They’re going to be revival; there’s going to be revival after revival. I also saw it, like a perpetual thing that’s going to begin to take place. There was going to be building, –
LARRY: Yeah.
HAKEEM: and people are going to be raised up –
LARRY: Woo!
HAKEEM: as unique voices in this hour. There’s going to be such a glory that’s going to be released upon the Church. I believe that those that have been in hiding, God is about to bring them to the forefront.
LARRY: Yeah.
HAKEEM: Whatever their discontentment is, whatever their dissatisfaction is, whatever their – they’re frustrated about, right now what’s happening – not to revert, but this is a season where God is going to use them as revivalists; prophetic revivalists –
LARRY: Yeah; yeah.
HAKEEM: to bring change, and the change will be in their mouths.
LARRY: Woo! I feel – I feel the Holy Spirit right now.
HAKEEM: Yes.
LARRY: And again, I want to take the rest of our time together just to pray and to prophesy into what God is doing. And, you know Hakeem, you’ve written this book, Heaven Declares. And just to let you guys know out there, I mean I know sometimes when we talk about decreeing and declaring what God, you know, certain things, there is a strategy there, and Hakeem just shared the strategy. The prophetic word that Hakeem has received about what God is doing right now, those are the things that we are called to decree and declare. When God shows you something – when God shows you something from His Word – that gives you a basis to decree and declare something with confidence. Just like Jesus said, My words are spirit – and life. Why? Because Jesus only said what He heard the Father say first. And I believe God is raising up people like Hakeem – legitimate prophetic voices – and He’s given you the ability to hear what He is saying; through different language – the different languages of God, through the Word of God – so you can speak what He is saying. Not only to the darkness of the world, and the crisis, and the chaos; but in the darkness of your life.
HAKEEM: God wants you to declare Light, be into every single dark situation. Hakeem, could you just lead the folks watching into some prayers and declarations over their lives, over however the Holy Spirit leads, because I believe that’s the key to actually unlocking the things you’re talking about.
LARRY: Yes. Father, we just release, right now, –
HAKEEM: Yes.
LARRY: those who are watching. [music] We release such a prophetic anointing, Father, that even now in this hour where there’s gross darkness, Father, that You will begin to raise up light bearers.
LARRY: Yes.
SID: I believe that God wants to flow. He wants to flow like a river. He’s already healing people. The people whose backs, if you’ll just move you’ll see, in the studio audience and also you that are watching right now. Ha, just don’t be–You’re just such a spectator you! C’mon now, if you have a back pain, bend over. You have a hip pain, do little two-step, three-step, no. (laughing) Okay– arthritis in the fingers, no more, no more, no more, no more. What is God telling you?
KHALIDA: What I saw is as all of us are worshipping as the music is playing, I kept seeing heart in heaven. I was in heaven. And in my hand I was drawing hearts, you know how the hearts shaped? I started drawing hearts. That’s us, giving our heart to Jesus. You today in your worship gave your hearts to the Lord. That worship came from your heart. Came from your heart. The next thing I was doing is two hearts next to each other, and as was doing them– How many here are husband and wife? Lift up your hands, husband and wife. God was a-drawing you closer together more than ever before! And the one who are seeking marriage– How many are seeking marriage, holy marriage. Lift up your hand, don’t be shy, lift up your hand. The one are asking for the holy marriage, now you started praying for the second part of your heart. Because it’s two hearts becoming one, it’s two becoming one in the flesh. One heart, one spirit, one God. The third thing I saw is Jewish and Gentile, their hearts be coming together. And I was standing with Sid. We present that in the flesh, we present that in the flesh. The forgiveness that happened between my two brothers in here, wanted to happen, and God received it. Faisal, God’s received it. Sid, God’s received it. And He’s drawing hearts, two hearts next– making them one. One nation, one kingdom, one God is going to go all over the world!
SID: Ho!
KHALIDA: That’s what I saw. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord!
SID: Sounds good to me! Faisal, what’s God showing you?
FAISAL: You know our heart, like she’s talking about over here, there’s such an opening. Something is opened up, where the Spirit of God is going to to continue to pour on you. That river is being released in greater magnitude and measure, from the praise and the worship and what’s been going on here tonight. You’ve opened something up with your heart and God wants to open something up for you with His heart. He wants to release His heart through you into this world everywhere. Something has shifted and changed around us. Do not take for granted the atmosphere we’ve stepped into. Something is shifted and that’s really key for what’s happening right now. And still things are being poured out. It’s like I saw this big bag in the heavens and it was being unzipped where there were promises and there was prophetic things that God spoke over your life in previous seasons. And the Lord is saying, Sid, “Now is the time.” Now is the appointed time for the vision, now is the appointed time for the vision and God is releasing from this place provision and vision, the promise, it’s time for the promise. So don’t take for granted the environment we’re in right now. Something’s really opened up here, Sid.
CHESTER: Thank you, Lord. You know it’s only because of the Lord any of us deserve any applause. Did you know that? And I think about where He’s brought Betsy and I from and our wounded conditions. And Betsy having a very rough start in life and my abandonment by my dad when I was age 2. It’s a wonder any of us make it, but to whatever degree we do it’s ’cause of God and we just so appreciate that. But we want to just share a little bit, name 4 ministry areas or sources of all our problems, and then we want to go into what we call a super stronghold û shame, fear, control û teach on that just a little bit and then minister to you. So how about that? You up for that? Okay!
AUDIENCE: Yes!
CHESTER: Hi, who are you? (to Betsy) Good. We’ve been having so much more fun since we got healed. It’s a whole lot better to be healed. Amen.
BETSY: Amen. [laughing]
AUDIENCE: [CLAPS]
CHESTER: Yes, thank You, Lord. So basically God through His goodness drew us into the ministry and convinced us we should go to Bible college. I was a very hard thing for Him to do because we’re so unworthy, you know? We’re tangled up in shame, fear, control. I’m abandoned, why would anyone want to be with me? I’m a full blown victim, okay? I draw victimization to me. That’s what victim’s do by the way, you know? And Betsy?
BETSY: Well, I’m just a basket case. [laughing]
CHESTER: Oh, that’s not quite as bad as me- [joking]
BETSY: That was kind of the bottom line.
CHESTER: So how’d you get that way?
BETSY: Well I got that way because of my own abandonment and my fears and all of my struggles-
CHESTER: Yeah, anyway God convinces us through some supernatural ways to go to Bible college and during that first year of Bible college He really accelerated our healing, it just took off. And we were around people that God was healing and it was just a wonderful environment and we learned about deliverance, casting out demons, we learned about inner healing, people getting their hearts healed, we learned about, well we didn’t really learn about getting our minds renewed, people, preachers would say that from the pulpit but no one ever told us how. And then we learned a little bit about family curses, generational sins out of the 2nd commandment. One day I was sort of pondering all this and it’s like you know one of those “aha moments.” You ever had one of those? We all have. It’s like ‘OH!’ The reason people don’t stay healed after they go for inner healing or they don’t stay delivered after they get the demons cast out is ’cause we need to deal with all 4 of these areas in a related way because the first 3 give legal rights to the demons. We need to deal with the ancestral sins and curses out of the 2nd commandment, we need to get our minds renewed so we do t believe the lies anymore that the devil has convinced us of. By the way, who’s the father of lies? The devil, right. So when we believe lies, we are actually, folks, this is really awful news, we are actually in agreement with the kingdom of darkness.
BETSY: Mmmm, uh huh.
CHESTER: And it’s like we open up the door and say ‘C’mon in, demons.’ And Jesus talked about sweeping the house out, and 7 worse [demons] would come back because the house was empty. Well we want to get the house empty but then we want to fill it with the Holy Spirit. So anyway those are the 4 areas. The inner healing is important because we sin out of our hurts. When people press our tender points, anybody in here have a- sometimes it’s called a hot spot or a tender point, you know, and we don’t know why but we just erupt, and then we sin against other people out of the wounds that other people have given us as they sinned against us. So we need to deal with all 4 of these areas and get healing of it. But on top of that then lies several different kinds of things, but what we really want to talk about tonight is shame, fear, control. We call it a super stronghold, a 3-in-1 stronghold. Shall we talk about how we learned about it?
BETSY: Yeah, let’s do. So we learned about this in the ministry room as we were ministering one day. And this lady who had shame, had fear, and had control asked Chester, she said ‘Well, how does this all fit together?’
SID: You’re at a conference in prayer and 2008 at IHOP. You’re in a prayer there and suddenly did you … When did you realize you were in hell? Tell me what happened.
LAURIE: We were in evangelism meeting. I was worshiping in the back with my eyes closed. And then as soon as the heat came in the room, I watched, I opened my eyes. I knew something was happening. I opened my eyes, the front of the room opened like this, Sid, and hell was right there. And an arm without fingers came flying out of hell, and it grabbed ahold of my spirit and it sucked me in. Those held doors are thick, and they’re heavy, and when they slam shut, I knew exactly where I was immediately.
LAURIE: Three things were spoken over me. You are in hell eternally for unforgiveness. The worst regret you can ever imagine was right then, because there’s no way out. I knew that, there was no way out of hell.
SID: Tell our audience what you observed.
LAURIE: First, I want to say there’s no way that I will ever be guilty of exaggerating hell. There are not enough—
SID: Why would you not exaggerate?
LAURIE: It’s worse than any words that I can come up with. When I got there, just the heat, the extreme heat started causing my skin to drip off of me. The sound of the people screaming broke my eardrums and caused such a pain inside of me and I knew this was going to go on eternally. There was no way out of it. My bones, my body twisted in so many ways, breaking. I felt my back break.
SID: Did you feel pain in hell?
LAURIE: Excruciating pain. There is not one drop of relief, there’s not a drop of water, there’s not a drop of light. You can never get to another human being to share that pain. You actually become sin. You start looking like this growth. You actually lose the formation of a human being because I’m made in the image of God and that changed there. It’s horrific. It’s horrific. I never want to go back.
LAURIE: Imagine trying to live your life with no God. I was never going to touch my grand baby’s face again. Even arguing with my husband, not that that’s cool, but you were never going to get to do any of that. You were never going to get to say you were sorry, you were never going to fix anything. To always be in pain and to know that it kept ramping up and it was going to keep getting worse and worse and worse. That was never going to end. That was the thing. It wasn’t like you could reach a pinnacle.
LAURIE: In hell, it worked the same as in heaven, my full brain operated, and I knew all of Matthew 18, I knew every scripture that I’d ever read, and I’d read the whole Bible. I knew every scripture that I’ve ever read and it made complete sense and it was completely righteous that I was in hell, and I became hate. I hated and I continued to hate. There were people there. They were just like me, they believed Jesus is the Lord God, but they refused to obey Him. They say, “We love you, we love you.” But the Scriptures teach, if you love me, then obey me, and I wouldn’t. And I wouldn’t forgive.
LAURIE: It was the worst thing to know that in heaven Jesus had been so patient and He was willing to forgive me everything, everything, and I couldn’t forgive small offenses? In my life, it felt like these things had broken me. But in reality, to everything that the Lord had forgiven me of, Sid, they were small.
SID: How did you get out of hell?
LAURIE: As quickly as I went into hell, these doors opened, and something brought me out so fast. I reentered the room, I was screaming. My friend who was running the meeting, he came to the back because I was so disruptive. He started shaking me.
SID: This was at the IHOP?
LAURIE: Yeah, he’s here. My good friend,
he was there and he was shaking me, asking me, “What’s wrong, what’s wrong, what’s wrong?” And I said to him, “I’ve been to hell.” Everything changed in that minute. As transforming as it was to go to heaven and meet Jesus Christ, that transformation does not compare to the transformation of having been to hell.
SID: When we come back, I’m going to have her share the biggest lies that Christians believe that will cause them to not make heaven. Be right back.
SID: My guest has a passion. Her passion is to help you encounter experientially God. That is normal. The other is just religion. Now, your background, both parents were addicts, but your dad was the supplier, at least that’s how your mom met him. When you were born, you were born with convulsions and withdrawals because you were born an addict.
JENNY: Right.
SID: Your mom, maybe she felt a little responsible and she wanted help. She wanted to know God was real and what did she do?
JENNY: She cried out to God. She said there was a song playing and it was by The Carpenter’s and it was the song (singing) and she said she heard that song, she cried out to God, “God if you’re real, give me a sign.” She heard the song, a bird appeared at the window and right then that was her sign that God was real and she said she felt the presence of God come into the room. The withdrawals left her immediately. I was okay so she didn’t have to go through days and days and weeks of withdrawals. Immediately the withdrawals left and she gave her life to Jesus and she’s served him ever since.
SID: Her mom was strong, but her dad wasn’t a believe but about a year later, he too became a believer, but the draw, the world was too much and they got divorced when you were 13. But then high school. She was bullied. You reached out toward things that were the opposite of the way you were raised. What happened?
JENNY: I got into cutting. I began to cut my wrist just to in my mind, I thought it was relieving the pain. That opened the door to witchcraft. I watched a movie with friends. A movie that came out about witches. It was very popular and I wanted to be that. So, I got into witchcraft and we began to gather around and do spells and incantations.
JENNY: That opened up many other doors. I began to experiment with drugs and then once I opened that door to drugs, I lost all logic and I was just out there acting crazy. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got kicked out of my home. That’s when I ended up living on the streets by myself with the backpack at 17 years old. I was just grabbing for anything to fill that void and I ended up turning to lesbianism.
SID: So, then history repeats. That’s actually what happened to her. She got married. Married a drug dealer and you were on drugs.
JENNY: Yep.
SID: He was on drugs and then you have your birth of your daughter and your daughter has the same future you had from the viewpoint of just she’s addicted now.
JENNY: Right.
SID: Tell me what happened.
JENNY: Actually, when I got pregnant, I was still using. So, I knew I needed to get off drugs because I have a baby, but the addiction was so strong. The demonic realm and hold on my life was so strong. Logic was out the window. So, I still used. Actually before she was born I cried out to God. She wasn’t born—
SID: When you say cried out, that wasn’t just a little, oh help.
JENNY: No.
SID: It was ever fiber in your being.
JENNY: I screamed it at the top of my lungs. I said three words.
SID: I want you to say it the way-
JENNY: I said, “God help me!”
SID: When we come back, we’ll find out how God answered.
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