Sid: I have on the telephone Ron Paul he has a Prophetic Prayer Ministry of Intercession for Hollywood. I’m talking to him at his office at Sherman Oaks, California. And if you’ve been listening all of this week you recognize that this is a big battle because Hollywood gets right into our homes on television, through motion pictures, especially to our children, especially to those that take television as the drug of choice. Just a way of unwinding of relaxing from a strenuous day. If you’re like me the things that I’m watching on television one the monitored shows the ones you know the news, sports I can’t watch these things anymore. And there are many people that are true believers that don’t understand the authority that we’ve been given, that do not understand and the demons tremble at the name of Jesus. That the demons literally take a step back every time that you speak of about the blood of Jesus or pray in unknown tongues. Don Paul you were telling me of something that happened to you recently you were on the beach.
Don: Yeah God had spoke to me to go down to the beach area between Santa Monica and Venice. As we talked earlier Santa Monica and Venice is the new Hollywood that’s where all of the money that’s where every things happening. So I’m lying on the beach and I was laying back on this little bench and all of a sudden the religious spirit over Venice used one of the doorways over a person that’s demonized or a person that has access to. And all of a sudden this guy comes running up to me while I’m laying down “Hey! Hey you!” And I look over and I think “Oh brother I’ve got to deal with you again well I think I’d better sit up again in case you go into full manifestations so I’m thinking this. And so I sit up and he says “What makes you think you’re going to come into these 2 cities and get these people saved I’ve had them indoctrinated into Hinduism for generations!” And I looked at the guy and just then he started evoking all kinds of demons in the atmosphere around me the whole atmosphere started being charged with demons. And I looked at him and I just looked aside and the love and the power of God just flowed out of me and the whole atmosphere came back to love and peace. And he went “Hey! What did you just do you just took my power away!” I said “That’s not power that’s not your power those are demons and you’re severely demonized and you need the blood of Jesus Christ to set you free.” And he went “No!” And he ran back into Venice. As you know Sid we’ve been doing a lot of intercession in the Santa Monica area and had a great success and we’re still dealing with the witch covens over Venice and several other ruling spirits there. Typically like in the Bible in Joshua when they’d to into the promise land and they would come against different kings for us those kings mean those ruling spirits over territories those are the giants over the spiritual giants. And a lot of times when Joshua would take out several kings the next new king would come up to challenge him but he would look at the kings that were taken out by this army and it would put fear in him. What that king was doing was coming out and challenging him but it knows that its time is coming short because our intercessory team is starting to focus…
Sid: What about people that are listening to us right now that are dealing with fear fears of all kinds what advice would you give them?
Don: Okay the first thing in the boot camp of becoming a mighty man of God becoming a son of God which the whole creation is waiting for you to manifest you and me that is our spirit man is to get rid of the fear. God says I’ve not given you a spirit of fear but of love strength and of sound mind. That indicates that fear is a spirit and not from God and if it’s not from God I don’t want it and God does not want us to have it. He also says in another place that the devil controls you through fear, fear of failure, fear of lack on and on. I will tell you that when you are standing in the presence of a demon there are 2 things that that spirit will emanate fear and condemnation. Neither one of those spirits is from Me. Fear and condemnation is how the devil controls Christians from walking in authority or releasing the power of God within us. Most Christians don’t even have a clue the level of power that’s in them because the devil so intimidates their mind with fear and condemnation. If you will bear to stand up and start praying in power you’ll start seeing incredible miracles happen. I know women that were about ready to get raped they bound the strong man and they just said “Jesus” and they couldn’t move. I’ve seen those kind of testimonies in my boot camp season when God was raising me up where a demon possessed guy was drunk was trying to punch me and rape somebody and the Holy Spirit just boomed out of my mouth “I bind you in Jesus Name!” And that guy had his fist cocked and he could not move his hand because that demon was bound. One of the things that I learned about fear is a spirit and it isn’t from God I would not let fear in my temple. Now to go a step further in my boot camp days I was submitting under a miracle ministry that I think we spoke of earlier that was under the Kathryn Kuhlman and Tommy Hicks anointing. And since I understood that fear was a spirit I suddenly realized that if I feel fear my emotions are reacting to spirits. And then I said wait a second that’s kind of like radars incoming so suddenly I said “Okay I don’t let fear grip me but when I discern fear or something’s making me fearful I realize that there’s a spirit in the room somewhere. And now that I know who I am in Christ I go after that thing with a vengeance to take it out. And we used to pray through the churches before we would have a meeting and I used to turn all of the lights off and I would walk around in the dark and whatever corner I was afraid of go into is the very corner I went into the very corner I went into and commanded that spirit that was hiding in the church out of there. Because other corners I didn’t care about but for some reason I was afraid to go into that corner because I understood that the demons emanate fear and our emotions react to fear. And actually it became a tool with correct teachings. See part of what a prophets mantle or teaching is to bring correct revelation. A lot of people were discerning their discernment if find but they just haven’t had the revelation brought to their understanding so they’re in confusion. One of the things I said to God through my preparation we’re always going through process so I said “God I don’t care what I go through I just don’t understand do I fast when I pray, do I read scriptures do I worship do I plead the blood? I just don’t understand just explain to me how to win because You made a way to win and You didn’t call us to be below You called us to be above but You really called us to rule a territory really rule the atmosphere and not let the demonic rule people that are just kind of pawns in this whole game. Does that help?
Sid: It helps but what did God show you to do?
Don: Praying in the Holy Ghost and to understand first of all that fear was a spirit and to stand against it and to rebuke it until it goes.
Sid: Are you telling me that praying in the Holy Spirit according to the scriptures it says it edifies you or builds you up that in affect you build your spirit man up by doing that?
Don: Think of it like this when people say “Oh I’m sick or I’m not sick or I do.” Think of it this body soul and spirit the Spirit of God is not talking to your body the Spirit of God is talking to your spirit. When He told Adam “Dress and keep the land.” He was talking to Adam’s spirit man, the first land that Adam had to address was his thought life. Then he had to address his dirt or his land and then he had to address his family, the business and out from that. But he’s always starting from that core spiritual point of view. If you think of the old adage the old vision of the farmer with the shotgun “Get off of my land!” with the shotgun and that’s really what our spirit man is to do and now’s here’s the problem when we’re more cardinal then we are spirit then the spirit of infirmity comes up to challenge us for dominion of our dirt our flesh suddenly our flesh gets sick.
As you…. this is a promise from God this is the word of God…as you pray in the Holy Ghost and build yourself in My own Holy Spirit this is the Spirit of the Lord I will give you dominion over those things that once had dominion over you. So the idea I never get sick because I this is the spirit part of me. My flesh my I…my spirit man might be in a battle with the spirit of infirmity for whose going to rule my roost if you will whose going to rule my body…
Sid: So you’re saying the real you? Your spirit doesn’t get sick but your body your dirt as you put it a spirit of infirmity can come on.
Don: Again if my spirit man is “Get off of my land! And I’m built up and I’m strong then a spirit of infirmity cannot take possession of my land because it belongs to me. If I am not built up in the Spirit then I’m just a sitting target and all kinds of spirits just come and hit me. Let’s see I just ate something the other day and it was food poisoning and you know that when you eat that if you’re going to have food poisoning you just come up (Ugh) and you go into this whole thing just like a spirit comes over you but it’s like you’re going to get violently sick. And I said “I don’t have time for this so I decided you know I’m too old in the Lord you’re not coming on this body God said “If you eat something poisonous it will not hurt you.” And again it’s not by choice it was an accident and I just took dominion over that spirit of infirmity that came up and I laid hands on myself and I focused on the situation and the spirit broke about 4 seconds later all the food poisoning was gone and I was completely healed. Here’s what people don’t do we live in Egypt too much and I want everybody to identify what Egypt is to you. But I’ll tell you Egypt is just your normal life. “Hey what are you doing want to go to baseball?” that’s Egypt. We don’t get into the Spirit enough to where we’re paying attention to what’s going on in the Spirit and I can tell when I’m in a room and there’s a spirit of infirmity on somebody and I can tell if it tries to come onto me and if it does I don’t get busy in my natural life I excuse myself like Jesus did, like Smith Wigglesworth did, I excuse myself and I deal with this spirit until it’s not around me anymore.
Sid: What do you mean you deal with it?
Don: I pray, I resist it and command it to leave and I watch in the spirit until it leaves I make sure that it’s gone.
Sid: What would you do if you commanded it to leave and you feel you have the victory but it’s still there?
Don: Two things it’s easier to deal with the spirit of infirmity before it lodges into your flesh. If you will discern as it’s trying to come on and that is the key time when the battle is and people are not that sensitive do not discern it and they think “Poppycock” fine the spirit comes on them they’re sick. It’s harder once it comes in and there’s a couple of reasons for that and one is your senses your nerve endings keep telling your brain how sick you are and so it reinforces it’s power over you.
Don: You’ve got this memory of how sick you were in the past that’s fear and you’ve got the symptoms so you’re in a harder position. Before it comes on it’s easier spirit to spirit to deal with that thing.
Sid: But what happens if you made the mistake and it’s already entrenched what do you do?
Don: You stand against it and I tell people if you’re tired sleep and then get up and go regular speed I don’t care if you take 9 naps but continue to resist the thing do not give in to fear command it to get off. Don’t buy it once you agree “I am sick” you’re saying “I” is your spirit man your spirit man is not sick. So I am not sick but my spirit man is battling the spirit for dominion of my flesh because this thing has got entrenched into my flesh. Obviously you do all of the normal health things that you need to do rest and food and things but you need to never agree that is part of you by saying I am. You need to say “No get off of my land do what your told get off my land. I am not sick and this is not your body you will not inhabit this body God gave me this body get off my land.”
Sid: It’s my dirt I like the way you use dirt we’re out of time.
Sid: Most of us realize that Hollywood has an influence upon the way people think the way people act. But the degree and the true source of the influence most people don’t understand. I have on the telephone Don Paul he has a Prophetic Intercessory Prayer Ministry to Hollywood. I’m speaking to him at his office in Sherman Oaks, California and Don Paul how did you get into this ministry?
Don: Well I have found that God spends most of His time working with us and every experience He gives us one usually leads to another and usually builds line upon line. My boot camp preparation for this level of ministry that I’m in started about 11 years ago when I was involved with a healing and deliverance ministry that was under the anointing of Kathryn Kuhlman and Tommy Hicks. Through that season we had several celebrities and just regular people churches just didn’t know what to do with that had demons cast out of them and AIDS healing. That ministry was featured on the Joan Rivers Show it was her highest rated show that they actually reran it 4 times that year. Of those celebrities that were actually featured on the show one of them was Denise Matthews. Denise Matthews name used to be Vanity. Vanity was Prince of the Rock and Roll singer’s girlfriend. Vanity had several movies she starred in and also several albums. But she got her deliverance she’s now preaching the gospel praise God so she had quite a change when she met with the power of God and got the demonic literally delivered out of her life. So through that season we were seeing a lot of people delivered of different demonic different demons that’s when I really came to grip with the power of the blood of Jesus. I think I ever saw a deliverance and a demon started coming out the minister said “In the name of Jesus and by the blood of Jesus come out.” And the demon said “Not the blood!” And I said “What?” Now wait a minute if the devil doesn’t like the blood then no matter I think the blood or animal sacrifices were through the Jewish traditions I suddenly started respected the blood when I found out that the devil didn’t like it. Anything the devil didn’t like I loved because I didn’t like the devil. So we saw several people get healed and delivered through that season. However several people would come back week after week after being set free the prior week they’d come back and they would have the same problem. I went to the Lord and I said “God what is going on here how come they’re coming back with the very same problem they just got set free of?” He said “They’re going home and watching it on TV.” And I said “Well we’re burning ourselves out here 3 days of fasting and prayer preparation and every week just to go though the same group of people to get them set free again.” I said “If our ministry teams burning themselves out. Think what this is like multiplied 100’s of times across the nation. I said “This makes no sense no army would ever win a war if they kept waiting for the bomb to drop and then heal the casualties.”
Sid: Explain to me what exactly is going on in the spirit realm when people watch what’s on secular television.
Don: Well the Bible says that think on these things lovely and pure Sid and so often just like Adam and Eve partook of the knowledge of good and evil they started looking at both sides of the game. When we start looking at these things that are defiling and ugly we literally a dark spirit comes into our soul and our system and it will shape the way that we perceive. See it’s as easy as this hold a glass that’s half filled with liquid or half filled with air or half empty. It depends some people would say the glass is half full or some will say that it’s half empty it depends on how you see. Some people see unto lack other people see unto prosperity. And the whole key that God is trying to do is just like that boy who got healed of leukemia he was seeing unto lack everybody around him was seeing “Oh this is impossible.” And God had me come in and say “No this is abundance” and I had to bring another atmosphere or perception to him. And the thing that God is trying to do is to see these things lovely and pure we’re not supposed to uncover peoples sins we are to cover them. See in the news you can find dirt on everybody and that’s not what God does He covers that and He contuse to tell us to treat each other in a higher order that we might rise to the occasion. What is happening on TV that is literally spirits behind pictures and they actually motivate people. And because we take concepts into our soul it can shape the way that we believe that there is actually spirits that go into us and most people don’t understand this. Sid did you know a spirit can be as simple as the spirit of fear?
Don: The Bible says “He has not given us a spirit of fear.” Well wait a second that means that fear is a spirit and it’s not from God that means it’s from the devil. Well the Bible also says “Did you know that all of your life the devil controlled you through fear.” So when my motives and my choices are being designed of I’m afraid of rejection, I’m afraid of failure, I’m afraid of…the devil is literally hindering me from becoming what God had called me to be so God wants to break the fear out. That for example is just one subtle spirit but so often we feed our soul on some of these concepts and it hinders and limits us into becoming what God called us to be. And then you go into everything from adultery to fornication and all of the different things and suddenly you wonder why marriages aren’t working…
Sid: You know you almost make me feel as though there’s nothing we can watch on most television that doesn’t have mixture.
Don: Today think back about Father Knows Best, My Three Sons and Leave It To Beaver you and I grew up on that we had something to balance. Think about the brand new little kids coming up today what are they looking at? Ten Ways to Cheat the Government, Ten Ways to Shoot Your Mom.
Sid: Listen some of the things I limit myself to are news and I’m having difficulty even watching local news they’ve got so much graphic detail today.
Don: Right typically our lower nature the beast the flesh or whatever we want to call it loves blowup destruction, destruction and so forth and so on. And yet God is trying to pull us into a higher order the reason…what is it “Train up a child in the way that he should go and he will not depart from it.” The problem is what is the master babysitter? Actually I’ve had people disagree but by the time I get done talking they go “Oh my God your right I never thought it through.” Today you’ve got single moms because that’s one of the spirits that’s gone out everywhere it is you know what “I’m leaving you I’m getting divorced I don’t have to put up with this.” And so rather than working out their differences and staying in unity like the Bible says we do the old throw away theology where we just run and leave. And that’s really promoted big time on TV now we have all of these single babies come up and the Bible says destruction has no covering. That means there is no love, there’s no rules, there’s no order. The moms out working during the day the kids at home watching TV the mom comes home she’s tired the kid wants to hang out with her she’s too tired often times. And I’m not just saying Christian moms I’m staying anybody because of the way life is she’s says leave me alone go watch TV. The problem is what’s on TV is filling these kids with destruction…
Sid: And the single Mom is also watching the same garbage.
Don: She’s burned out and tired she’s lonely she’s been rejected don’t understand it so the cycle just perpetuates itself. What is happening spiritually in the higher heavens and most people are not even aware of this is that there are principalities over territories. The new Hollywood is actually Santa Monica, Venice, California is actually where our ministry is located. And over the territory there are ruling spirits that you’ve got the largest Hindu ashram, you’ve got three witch covenants in Venice. Some of the people in that are over the witch covens that over Dallas that’s why we’ve been seeing so many witchcraft shows coming out over TV because why? Because these people are working in the studios and unfortunately don’t get upset here but unfortunately well meaning Christians have been following a little pied piper in that a lot of times a baby Christian could probably tell you more about somebody’s theory of rapture or they can give you the 10 theories of rapture more than they can tell you how to rule and reign with Christ. Jesus came to give us life abundantly He said to rule and conquer but typically what happens is that everybody runs from a battle because there’s not enough drill sergeants there’s not enough warriors that is actually raising the body of Christ up. If we had Christian men and I really hear the Spirit of God in this season calling the Christians to the forefront and I’m watching those Christians that would dare to believe just like Joshua going and fight the spiritual giants I’m actually watching them be placed in positions of authority and networks in government positions so forth and so on. More than worrying about how quickly I can get out of the battle we need to really have a heart for people and say “No God I want to be effective in the battle as long as I can put me in that place of authority.” Did you know that RW…well I don’t know if I can say people’s names but or ministries?
Sid: You can sure R.W. Schambach.
Don: Schambach could not get his television show played out of FOX studios in New York because they had the laying on of hands in the intro of his show. Now FOX will play naked tied up women being stabbed and raped and every other kind of gross defiling on humanity on women that’s okay but laying on of hands is not? That indicates that there are no Christians in authority in key positions in that studio.
Sid: And by the way we don’t even have to pick on one studio (Snickering) I think it’s probably most that way.
Don: And really Sid it’s not their fault it’s just demons walking up and down the aisles and they are pawns. See if the Christians will not rule and reign with Christ if they will not allow the Holy Spirit to fill them and give them authority and learn how to have the authority then the devil will have his way. And literally in this last season just before the presidential elections when we were dealing with the witchcraft behind Free Healings and Blair Witch II, and by the way when that spirit or that stone was broken through our teams intercession and others that we had notified to pray with us we literally watched Blair Witch II fail within 2 days. It failed it hit the theaters and it was gone there was no power the newspapers even reported spell broken. And the problem is that Christians are not daring to raise up and be that mighty army like the Bible prophesies. So God is raising up if you will warrior leader drill sergeants we are not to focus on how quick we can get out of here or who’s theory is correct we’re to focus on how effective we are while we are here. Sid look at this a second we read the Bible we read about Paul’s life that he was a hero, we read about Jesus’ life He was a hero, we read about all of these heroes in the Bible and we have these role models. We don’t have role models like that today on TV and I want us to just…I just feel like I’m talking to some Christians out there do you realize those guys book was written. Do you realize Sid that your and my book and the people listening to us book is being written today? And I don’t want my book to be all about how I spent my life trying to convince people how I was going to rapture was better than somebody others. I want my book to be about how I thought, how I went in and I took a territory I dared to believe God, I prayed until the demonic was pulled down. I pulled those witches out of the witch coven and they got…
Sid: Don Paul I’m sorry we’re out of time.
Sid: I have on the telephone Don Paul. Don is a prophet he has a prayer ministry in Hollywood, California that will find out about shortly but before that on yesterday’s broadcast I’m just so intrigued how a seer a prophet operates in the gifts of discernment, in the gifts of seeing, in the Spirit in the gifts of hearing prophetic words. Like on yesterday’s broadcast you literally heard something that I believe that if the person that was listening does what was instructed will change their life. We were also talking about the value of praying in unknown tongues and a lot of Christians have been baptized in the Holy Spirit have manifested their gift of praying in unknown tongues but really don’t do it that much anymore tell them why they’re missing it.
Don: All of deal with not wanting to pray in the Holy Ghost that a lot of times is just pressure from the enemy and I realize that if I just pray… see if I will pray more in the Holy Ghost first of all the Bibles true that Paul said that the Spirit makes utterance and we don’t know how to pray. No matter how hard I try and figure out how to pray I’m not going to pray as good as God. If I think my English and my appealing to God and my intellect is better than allowing Him to pray through me that’s pride and I want to submit to you if I want to be not prideful before God then I’m going to remove my opinion of how to pray and I’m going to yield to my Father and allow His Spirit to make intercession because I really don’t know how to pray. Sid I can act like I love people as much as God and it’s just not true I don’t love people none of us love people the way that God loves people. And I just really think that He’s going to make better intercession than I am. The first thing is that really the Holy Spirit and Jesus dealt with that a lot of time there’s a lot to radio programs in the name of God and they really put they really do more work for the devil in generating the spirit of fear and Jesus said “I’m not giving you a spirit of fear and you’ll be able to tell what spirit a man is of the spirit that generates in you the fruit that generates.” And when you listen to somebody and it puts fear in you about everything supernatural and about everything of God we’ve got to come to a place where you know what I’m going to trust God and He’s just big enough to do what He says and just big enough to protect me I’ve got to come to that place of confidence with God. Jesus addressed that issue about getting the Holy Spirit and I think I’m addressing people and they’ve said “How will I know that I’m getting the Holy Spirit I’ve been told that you know its not and this ministry is dadada.” Here’s the thing if you have a heart before God and you’re really saying “God I really want all that You have for me!” Jesus said “Listen which one of you being evil in comparison to how good God is if your son asked for a fish you gave him a stone you wouldn’t you’d give him fish you’d take care of your son. Well listen God loves you more than you love your own sons and if you ask God for the Holy Spirit He’s not going to let another spirit come in. And that’s just something that the believer is going to get in their heart regardless of all of these paranoid teachings and people that exalt themselves. You really need to this between God but once you understand that the Spirit of God is the gift that the prophets wanted from old it is the promise of the Father said “I don’t leave you as orphans I go to the Father I don’t leave you alone I send you the teacher the comforter He’ll teach you all truth He’ll teach you power.” The miracles in Jesus life started when He received the Holy Spirit the miracles in every apostle’s life started when they received the Holy Spirit. I read in the Bible loving God, loving God going to church do everything and yet I prayed for people and they weren’t getting healed. And I got a scripture that God took me to popped out and it said “If you know Me (this is Yeshua talking to you Sid this is Yeshua talking to me it’s Yeshua talking to everyone of the people listen) He said “Personally “If you know me you’ll raise the dead, you’ll cast demons out, you’ll heal the sick, if you drink any poisons it will not hurt you.” I looked at that scripture convicted as all get out I wasn’t concerned about what my church thought what my Mom, what my brother I was concerned about my walk before God because I wanted this stuff and I said “Raise somebody from the dead.” And I’m thinking in my intellect “Yeah I’ll take those shocker paddles when they have a heart attack you know.”
Don: You know I’m trying to think “How am I going to raise somebody from the dead?” I’m trying to it in my ability I thought “Maybe I can give them penicillin or Vitamin C I don’t know how to do this.” And I went before God and I said “God do I know you or am I being a Pharisee and I being religious just like those kids just like those people in that church when I was kid? I just went “What’s missing?” And He showed me that Jesus after he got water baptized got baptized in the Holy Spirit. Well I had not been water baptized as an adult. I thought “Interesting Jesus went to John and John said “Whoa Jesus you should be baptizing me.” And Jesus said to John the Baptist “No let all things be done in order.” Jesus Himself submitted to the procedures of God because Sid this is a supernatural enough dominion where were getting into some real heavy stuff God’s not going to let people go into that if there’s areas of rebellion or self righteousness. Just like a soldier in boot camp that will sit under our drill instructor we’ll go out and fight a war and won’t get killed but if we’re rebellious we’re going to get hurt and God is not going to lead me into this level of supernatural. Remember I told you how much rebellion was in me He wasn’t going to let me in this area supernatural until I would be willing to follow the procedure. So I said “Jesus if it’s good enough for You to get water baptized then it’s good enough for me and I set my marks to go get water baptized. I had been having the best pray for me for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I had had the most anointed miracle ministries and it still wasn’t happening because God wanted to teach me “You’re going to follow procedure because I’m going to take you in deep but I want you to do what I show you because otherwise it wouldn’t be as affective if you did it your own way. I went and got water baptized immediately came up and then that was when I received the gift of tongues. And I have learned to trust the Spirit of God praying making intercession through me Sid it’s probably my most trusted gift from God. And God called that the gift and Jesus said “It is the gift” Jesus said “It’s the gift of God He said it’s the teacher, the comforter, He will show you all truth.” I will tell you the Holy Spirit revealed to me what I was going to pay for a car and this is just a side issue but God is very practical too. And I went into that car salesman and he kept trying to get that price up 500 – $600 more it would not come. I said “Listen you don’t understand I got it very very good I know what I’m going to pay for the car. And I said “If you don’t go ahead I go back one more time but you’re wasting my time if you keep going up I know what I’m going to pay for the car.” He came out and wouldn’t give me that price I said “Okay I’ll go down the street.” Went and bought the car down the street and I came back and said “I’m telling you my Friend who is closer than a brother shows me all truth because He’s the gift of God.” And God wants us to have that gift He helps us in supernatural but in practical things. I am telling you I cannot image walking around without being connected up with the Creator the universe without being connected up with Him as the best friend who actually cares about you and where you can actually feel His love.
Sid: Don you know what I was fascinated with was how God many times will show you before something happens and then it happens. For instance that young person with Leukemia, tell me about that.
Don: Sid I like to share things and show the human side of miracles and things because we all are human and these types of phenomenon’s of God are such so natural. So I’m just going to just let you into some of the humanist of what I went through. That miracle began with me in bed one day and I was depressed and wouldn’t get out of bed. Even though I had seen great miracles I said “Forget this faith stuff.” Even though I had been standing in faith for this particular woman to be my wife (And you know I know that you have heard that over and over it wasn’t happening.) And God fires 5 scriptures at me real quick I read the scriptures and then He says “You either get up and go in faith today or you stay in the pit.” And I went “What?” Okay fine. I get up and I go out in the living room and I say “Okay fine you’re raising me up for a miracle ministry then let’s pray for a miracle.” I know that I’m a little bit cocky but just angry the human side of me is out. “Okay fine what do You want to pray about I yield myself to You Holy Spirit to pray through me and what do you want to pray for today God?” And He says “Cancer.” I said “Cancer!” I said “Can’t we try for something a little easier?” The Lord showed me “Like what you think that you’re going to do it?” And I’m like “Right You’re the healer okay fine cancer.” I start praying in the Holy Ghost (Prayer language) and I see a vision a picture of a little boy being healed of cancer. And I stop in the middle of the vision and I say “Wait a second Lord am I in my imagination am I dreaming this up is this real or this a fantasy. Listen You’re going to have to be more clear I mean I can’t just go into every hospital and pray for every little boy with cancer.” All of a sudden the phone rings it’s a Messianic Believer and she says “Don you know I’m a School Teacher and listen I know that God uses you in healings and one of my student’s mom just called and he’s in the hospital with leukemia and they expect him to die within the next day or two; would it be too much to ask you to come down and pray for him?” I said “Not only will I come and pray but you won’t believe what this morning has been like and God’s going to heal him.” Alright I’m going down to the hospital at this point and I’m at the hallway of the hospital and as I approach the door the Lord spoke to me and says “Don I want you to understand this little boy has been on radiation therapy he’s going to look very bad and I don’t want you to get pulled into his reality of hopelessness I want you to stay caught up where you and I were in the living room where you and I showed you that he was going to get healed and I want you to bring that atmosphere to him I don’t want you to get drawn into his atmosphere.” So I walk through the door and I’m looking at the little boy and he’s like tubed up and dark circles under the eyes and the top of the hair you know is all falling out he can’t breathe his lungs are all full of fluid phlegm. And we’ve got the Messianic playing the Yeshua songs, the Spanish believer mom is praying to Hesus and I walk up to the little boy and say “Are you ready to get healed?” And I mean he’s just looking bad okay God did not give me any particular thing to say or to do I just knew that He was going to heal him. This is the first time that I prayed for somebody that got healed that I didn’t feel the heat of the Holy on my Spirit and God was teaching me that when God says he’s going to do something He does it. And a lot of time He lets us feel the heat because it helps our unbelief.
Don: And that you really don’t need any outward signs for the power of God to work it’s really to help us to grow up to believe. I walk up to the kid and I don’t know what to say so it makes sense to me and I said “Have you given your life to the Lord?” He prays the sinners prayer and then I think that it makes sense to me well let’s get the Holy Ghost in him. And so I say let’s get you baptized in the Holy Ghost and bang he starts praying in tongues. Good I said “Now sit up and act like your healed and he sits up and (sounds of struggled breathing) can’t breathe his lungs are just so full of phlegm. This is a little gross so I reached over and touched him and said “Lord clear out his lungs.” I figured it would take a week instantly it came flying out of the lungs I did not expect that…
Sid: Oh we’re out of time was he healed?
Don: Yes he was healed the nurse came in and she said “What’s going on?” It looked like total chaos I said “Were done.” We leave I get a call 2 days later she says you’re not going to believe this not only is the little boy out of the hospital he’s playing outside at the next door neighbor’s house as if it never happened the doctors can’t figure out what’s going on.
Sid: I have a guest Dave Roberson I’m speaking to him at his office in Tulsa, Oklahoma where’s he’s Senior Pastor of The Family Prayer Center. We’re talking about his new book it is a must must book. Some of you are in a crisis some of you are in you feel like you’re treading water. You’ve hit a break wall and you want to get busted out to the next place with God. This book is going to do it for you… “The Walk of the Spirit and the Walk of Power.”
Dave I want you to pray for everyone that has never been baptized in the Holy Spirit or been baptized in the Holy Spirit and never spoken in tongues or even the people that were baptized in the Holy Spirit but haven’t been praying in tongues and a fresh impartation and anything else God directs you to do.
Dave: Alright I’m excited because the last time an India they said it was 4000 preachers to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and began to speak with tongues 4000.
Sid: Imagine how that’s going to affect India.
Dave: Oh my and I remember one boy was born…he was 11 years old and he had no teeth in his head because his jaw bones didn’t have seeds for teeth. And there was about 200 Hindu’s that gathered around him when the mother screamed. And then in 12 minutes his teeth had grown in.
Dave: And in 12 minutes it they got saved. Any way 4000 preachers received and if you’ll listen to me you what that want the Holy Spirit and want to speak with tongues. And you that have Him can and want to speak with tongues you that haven’t spoken awhile and it seems difficult to you. If you’ll listen to me closely in these next few moments and yield yourself over and you will be speaking with tongues right where you’re at He’s going to come on you and He’s going to rise up within you and that language is going to pour out of you. See when I was born again I was translated out of darkness into the Kingdom of Light and His Son. My spirit literally received His nature and when I did God didn’t send me an angel although they’re with me and with you and their Ministering Spirit. But God didn’t trust you to an angel now that you have His nature He trusted you to the Third Person of the Godhead the precious Holy Spirit and He sent Him to step on the inside of you and become to you what no man can give you. He is the instructor of your new nature and the teacher of your wisdom in that new nature. He sent the Holy Spirit, who did He trust you to when you become a son of God but the Holy Spirit. So when you are baptized and He steps into you the difference is when you were born again that happened to your human spirit He became part of you. You’re an individual that become part of your nature. The Holy Spirit is another person He steps into your spirit in baptism all the way from heaven He brings with him a supernatural language the language from heaven and He brought it with Him. Because the moment He steps into you that very moment He baptizes you He wants to begin to pray for you in that supernatural language that my friend it will change your life. Now if you’ll follow me closely I was just like you I was first born again I didn’t have the Holy Spirit and somebody laid their hand on me and prayed for me. I felt something come over me all of a sudden my mouth stated quivering trying to shape words I didn’t know what was happening to me. Well what happened to me was what’s going to happen to you the moment I prayed the Holy Spirit stepped inside of me. What He began to do in the depth of my spirit was create that supernatural language in my spirit. But the moment He creates it in your spirit my friend to complete the circuit of prayer He will shape the words with your mouth, with your tongue that He’s creating in your spirit. I didn’t know what was happening to my mouth it was trying to shape words. A saint looked at me and she said “He’s got stammering lips.” And she’s right because my mouth was trying to shape that beautiful language He was speaking in my spirit but I wouldn’t yield over. I was afraid but finally when I did yield over and I spoke that first word that my mouth was shaping like a ciphering hose another word come up out of my spirit and another one and another one until the whole language began to pour out of me. And He’s been praying for me ever since and my life has not been the same but if you’ll listen to me closely right now right where you’re at even if you’re driving it doesn’t matter right where you’re at in your front room, driving all you have to do is say this after me. Say Holy Spirit
Sid: Holy Spirit
Dave: I invite You into my life.
Sid: I invite You into my life.
Dave: Fill me.
Sid: Fill me.
Dave: And pray for me with that supernatural language.
Sid: And pray for me with that supernatural language.
Dave: I now yield myself over to You.
Sid: I now yield myself over to You.
Dave: Fill me with the Holy Spirit.
Sid: Fill me with the Holy Spirit.
Dave: I now receive
Sid: I now receive
Dave: the supernatural language of tongues.
Sid: the supernatural language of tongues.
Dave: Now my friend notice that your tongue is beginning to shape that language. Notice your mouth is beginning to form the words all you have to do right now is to yield over. Don’t speak any English or any language that you know out of your mind this new language comes from your spirit so give your tongue over.
Sid: But I don’t know what to say.
Dave: Just yield over and He will shape the word all you have to do is give your voice to what your tongue and mouth is shaping and you will notice Him begin to take it over with power and it will get stronger and stronger. (Praying in tongues.)
Sid: (Praying in tongues)
Dave: And I’m sure there’s many being filled now. That’s it just yield yourself over.
Sid: It feels almost like the Holy Spirit is raining on me right now even though I’ve been baptized in the Holy Spirit for many years it’s almost like I’m in a river of God’ Spirit. And in that river I heard that people are being physically healed right now. There’s someone that had pain in their neck and they are healed. In their…there’s someone that had no hope and I don’t understand this but hopelessness has left I guess it must be the anointing Dave.
Dave: Sure lately He’s been doing that in our services the grace that reaches in a person’s spirit makes adjustments you know so strong that people have been so healed and encouraged that hopelessness is…
Sid: Would you pray for people’s teeth?
Dave: Oh yes! You have crocked teeth, rotten teeth, cavities, gum problems, TMJ Jaw I don’t care just get ready. Oh Sid He’s flowing already.
Dave: Yes Sir He’s flowing already and some of your are receiving the supernatural manifestation your rotten cavities are filling up with gold and silver some He does with silver. Some He restores with enamel gum diseases and the TMJ Jaw and the straightening of the teeth. O Holy Spirit flow and in Jesus name Your released to do this. Flow Holy Spirit with your glory and Your power and do these creative miracles in people’s teeth. And Father I worship You and thank You for this in Jesus name. A back also Sid O see something in the back.
Sid: I’m hearing the word spine.
Dave: Yes some steel or something and it’s in the same creative line as the teeth but only this time He removes He removes. There’s some steel in somebody’s back I just saw it and You’re doing something there a miracle hallelujah.
O Sid that despair feeling and hopeless feeling I feel so many people that feel like the end of the rope like you said. I can still feel that flowing so strong. Recently I entered into a peace I didn’t know existed the sower can overtake the reaper because its resident in me right now you can harvest what took me 20 years to get. Right now the peace of Jesus surpasses all understanding.
Sid: Quickly scurry that in.
Dave: Right now be healed in Jesus name be healed.
Sid: In Jesus name.
Sid: This is one of these weeks because it’s the week Friday and Saturday its Shavuot Pentecost the outpouring of God’s Spirit. And my guest Dave Roberson he’s Senior Pastor of The Family Prayer Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And Dave right before we went on the air he talked about several Indians from India that you have been teaching about praying in tongues and walking in the Spirit and what happened in their ministries?
Dave: They have the 4th and the 5th and the 6th there’s 3 of them at this point largest ministries in India.
Sid: What caused their ministries to get so large?
Dave: They got a hold of the tapes and the tapes that I had taught on the walk of the Spirit, the walk of power and not near as in detail as the book that you’re offering at the end of program “The Walk of the Spirit the Walk of Power” but enough to launch them in. And you have to understand that the Indian ministry over there they have nothing to lose you know they don’t have the same distraction. When I preached this and they saw it for truth they jumped all of the way in. And begin to spend hours a day and now my friend just called me we nicked named him Rambo he’s Dave Rambo who from England I just talked to him last night. A woman England they’re packed out they’re running it in their newspapers now. A woman 87 years old had been in a wheelchair for 38 and just walked out of the wheelchair at his meeting.
Sid: Hm. So you know a lot of people say “Well we see these miracles in India but we don’t see it in the United States or England.” Dave do you see these miracles in the United States?
Dave: Yes Sir I see miracles like that often and this was in England that miracle my friend Rambo. But yes yes I see oh let me see the last time I was in Palm Springs with Norville I was in a Camp meeting. And let’s see there was Norville and Tim Story was there and was a doctor there that’s why I remember this one in particular.
Sid: This was Norville Hayes but go ahead.
Dave: Yes and I was there ministering and the service I ministered He filled some people’s teeth with gold. And so there were big overlays of gold and so when they showed the gold and of course you know Norville got excited he wanted to see it and he run over and looked and the doctor came up and checked her out. And then Tim Story he even jumped up you know and run over and he looked into their mouth to see all of these tremendous gold overlays like that. And yes I just finished our conference this March and nobody that came in Sid nobody that came into our conference left with the braces and crutches they came in with it was our first conference that ever happened.
Sid: Katherine Kuhlman used to share and I’ve repeated this on the air that she’s prophesied a day is coming in which Christians will go into hospitals and clear the whole hospital out of the sick. Do you see that day coming Dave?
Dave: I do and I believe it there’s a realm that I just recently made it through from praying in tongues and going from glory to glory. And where I used to operate that happened where I would go out and my senses would be put on the side and an anointing would come. But now Sid this next realm of glory through praying in tongues and worship that He’s brought me to it seems that my spirit is just a second away from Him. And its closer to a hospital bed anointing than I’d ever seen. Any way these people come in on crutches and neck braces and back braces all of them pealed them off and left them they walked out in this particular meeting.
Sid: Dave there are people listen to us right now and they say “Yes I know tongues are for today and yes I believe it’s for everyone and I’ve asked God and nothing’s happened what are some of the obstacles of speaking in unknown tongues?
Dave: As you know you mean from receiving.
Sid: Yes from receiving yes.
Dave: Operating in the gift as you know strongholds consist of imaginations. And he said this “Out weapons are mighty through God that of casting down the strongholds or pulling down, casting down imaginations.” An imagination is a system of thoughts which is empowered by emotions so many many people that can’t receive and the most that we’ve had the most trouble with is people that will have a stronghold built in them from a system of thoughts that they received from teaching. Now it isn’t that they’re not filled when they ask and we pray for them but many times that stronghold exists between Him coming in and the block that He puts in their mind from them receiving Him and that block stops them.
Sid: How do you get rid of the block? How do you even really know what the block is?
Dave: Well a lot of times it is that the reasonings that was taught into them against it. And so they ask Him to come in and He will but they just can’t get it out of their minds so they set up a block and they won’t let the tongues come through. So that’s that is one and another an another stronghold is if you’ve ever been in any kind of witchcraft or anything that sometimes that devil will be set up in such a way in them that he will try to remain in the stronghold to block them from receiving after they’re saved.
Sid: And of course many the people say they’re listening say “I’ve never been involved with the devil but they’ve been in what God calls abominations like New Age like a necromancing communicating with the dead, channeling, going to fortune tellers, calling the physic hotline would anything that simple cause a block?
Dave: It can.
Sid: So what do they do about it?
Dave: Well then then they can pray they themselves can pray but it’s good to go with some saints that pray a lot. And then they can literally bind that devil, bind him and force him to turn loose in the name of Jesus and when they do he turns loose. Then that block will be removed and they’ll give themselves over then and they’ll be able to receive the Holy Spirit.
Sid: My experience is that it is the same that all you need to do is repent because it was sin and tell God you’re sorry.
Sid: And ask to be set free from anything you’ve opened yourself up to in Jesus name. On tomorrow’s broadcast Dave I want you to pray for people to receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit the baptism of the Holy Spirit, speaking in unknown tongues and even as God directs healing. I believe that it’s as affective you speaking over the radio even as someone being in person because I can tell you just in the interview we’re doing right now there’s a river of God’s Spirit that is all around me and all around everyone listening whether they sense it or not it’s there. Dave is there any reason why any born again Christian cannot receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit if they want to?
Dave: There’s no reason Sid they can receive it the moment they were born again if they could have give themselves to it.
Sid: Well what kind of feedback are you getting from people that are reading your book “The Walk of the Spirit the Walk of Power”?
Dave: Sid it’s a run away even individuals are buying cases for their friends and the feedback even people that are not filled that are reading it it’s filling their Spirits up with so much faith. And it’s pulling down every stronghold it’s just receiving in their car and their going about their business He’s been falling on them and they’ve been talking with tongues.
Sid: Tell me one specific person that’s read the book that gave you a testimony.
Dave: There was a woman that had been really messed up in witchcraft and things and she had been trying to receive and she came down to the conference and gave her testimony. And Sid if you can believe this she was so thirsty for the Spirit she read it 6 times in one week. It filled her up so much with faith that when she had finished reading it that she just just gone about her business I don’t know what she was doing but she just lifted her hands so full of faith that He just busted out of her in the most fluent tongues you ever heard. And so it’s been she’s on the way to power now.
Sid: Now let me ask you a question that’s crossed my mind there are some people when they pray the call it warfare and they get really angry and scream and shout in tongues and other people just go very normal almost in a monotone is some of that flesh or is it the Holy Spirit causing them to pray that way?
Dave: I think most of it is flesh Sid because He said “He that prays in unknown tongue speaks not unto men but unto God.” You’re not talking to men you’re not talking to devils either this isn’t a tongue to be interpreted this is a tongue for your own edification and you can whisper that and be at a fight. Now there is an intercession one of the diversities of tongues that talked about the groaning that is also not talking to devils. That is going out and causing you to stand in the place of people on the path trying to get to hell and they would but your prayers are stopping them. So…
Sid: How important is praying in tongues for the unsaved for you if you have unsaved relatives?
Dave: Oh Sid when your heart no you can’t stand it that the lost is lost your loved ones he picks up on your heart. He prays the compassion of your heart that’s why you can’t direct Him He prays that compassion. And boy you talk about a story my bothers and sisters coming it that’s a story (Laughing) hallelujah.
Sid: In your own family you mean?
Dave: Yes my brother just came to visit he never went back after being a policeman 20 years hardened he just come to visit. He got saved he never went home he moved his family up he’s preaching now it’s been 2 years.
Sid: Now the Bible talks about deception in the last days how does praying in tongues protect you from this deception does it refine your discernment?
Dave: It’s an inoculation against deception. Because John said “Concerning those that seduce you have no need that any man teach you.” He says that “The truth that abides in you and the anointing cannot lie.” So when you pray in tongues your praying the mysteries of Christ “He speaketh mysteries” He said in tongues. And when these mysteries go off in your spirit then it cleanses you from what the Bible says “All filtiness of flesh and spirit.”
Sid: Dave we’re out of time today.