Sid Roth on October 29th, 2014

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Sid: My guest is Freddy Hayler and as you know I love music that’s on the frequencies from Heaven.  Freddy every worshiper and people that do CD’s they have distinctiveness to the anointing on their worship.  From the feedback you get what would you say you’re tapping into; what frequency in Heaven when you minister?

Freddy:  Well, I just that it’s simply a tool to help the true pure worshiper get to a higher level.  And I just truly believe that these songs are like light rays and beams of God’s glory.  Really that’s what music is, it’s light; but this is anointed light that will literally transport you into the throne room of God Almighty and into innumerable company as it says in Hebrews 12:22.  So I just believe that the angels are here to help us; they are in Heaven but they’re also on Earth. Zechariah saw them; talked to them; he was a pure worshiper and he walked among them.  And so it’s time for the church in this hour to be transported into their spirit man like Paul was in paradise to see the glories of Heaven and to experience that tangible in spirit and body.  And then go forth into the world as a light as a great soul winner as a missionary with that glory and that beautiful presence of God.

Sid: How much prayer and fasting went into these albums?

Freddy:  Countless hours, days, years.  This is the fruition of about 10 years of work; of seeking the Lord; of combining the best music writers and noticeably I came into an Italian Jewish group of writers writing guild and together we worked on songs and I did some adaptations.

Sid: I mean; I think that the musicians and the arrangements is so Heavenly I mean “How did you bump into these people?”

Freddy:  Well, they write for the greatest writers in the world and I wrote to them.  The Lord told me to write to them and say “I would like to get together with your writers and put together beautiful music that glorifies the Lord.”  And some of these were Catholics and many of them were Jewish and said “You know what we think that this great.” I couldn’t believe it; they write for Universal, and Sony, and some of the biggest record labels.  And they’re geniuses God has really gifted them. Together with my ideas for music and for lyrics which I wrote they just gave us the most intricate timeless; eternal music of Heaven that…

Sid: So what goes one inside of you Freddy when you’re singing a song such as “God I love You?”

Freddy: “God I love You So” you just get caught up in the love of God.  You know the Bible says; Jesus said in Matthew 22 that “We’re to love the Lord God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength.” And David said “I will love You with all my heart in the Psalms.”  And that’s what this song does; it just exudes with the love of God; this anointing of God’s love on it.

Sid: Alright get ready for that anointing “God, I love you!”

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Sid: I’m speaking to Freddy Hayler.  Freddy when you were in college you went to some meetings for the fellowship of Christian Athletes and you got born again and you got filled with the Spirit.  And something very supernatural happened to you when you were filled with the Spirit; tell me about that…

Freddy:  Well, I was studying hard and I’d been dealing with some issues from my past sin and some… I was in a gang and I was in a rock band and my life was totally a mess.  I was raised Catholic but I didn’t know the Lord personally.  I went to a fellowship Christian Athletes meeting and after the meeting a brother who was on the football team shared with me about how to be filled with the Spirit from Acts Chapter 2.  So about 9:00 at night on April 15, 1976 we went out to the Sunken Gardens in Colonial Williamsburg where I was going to school at William and Mary.  And he told me about the power of God and how to be born again.  And right there I stopped him and said “Yeah I read Acts Chapter 2” and I said “Yeah, I want Jesus and I Him to save me and fill me with the Holy Spirit.”  And he said “Just ask Him right now;” and when I did there wasn’t a sound of thunder but there was a bright flash of lightning and a sound of a rushing wind. And when that lightning hit me that was like warm honey and hot oil just poured all over me.  My mind was instantly healed; and I jumped off a 4 or 5′ wall and I just did a somersault forward and I landed on the grass.  There must have been angels or the Holy Spirit just kept me from breaking my back.  But I landed very lightly and I remember just praying in the tongues and Heavenly languages and just getting up from there and yelling out. “He’s alive, He’s alive!” You know and all the students were studying you know for the final exams and the windows and they all heard me on the campus.  And later on about 300 students came to know Christ; there was revival on the campus.

Sid: I have to believe though in the Heavenlies when you started yelling at the top of your lungs you opened something up in that University.

Freddy:  That’s right, the Bible tells us that to declare His glory; you know King David declared His glory in the sanctuary; declare His glory every place you are. I don’t care if it’s your house; your car; your recreation at the gym; wherever you are declare the glory of God and speak into the Heavenlies God’s love and the Name of Jesus Yeshua and just enjoy His presence.  It’s like a magnet and people will see the glory of God on your face; and even as Moses came down from the mount of glory, and Steven spent so much time in the presence of the Lord they said His face shown like an angel. You can actually see the physical manifestation of the glory of God in people’s face and eyes and countenance.  And so that’s what this “Song of Angels is about.”  It’s bringing people to that place; it’s a tool.

Sid: Well, you used to lead at least for a season worship at Benny Hinn’s you would minister and worship God.  And I know that is the key to his miracles; the worship that he has is what releases those great miracles.

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Sid Roth on October 24th, 2014

Sid: I have a Jewish person on the telephone that thought for herself my sister Shirley. Shirley and her husband Marc have immigrated to Israel, made Aliyah to Israel; we’ll get into that in a moment.  But Shirley comes from a traditional Jewish background. She felt proud about being Jewish but God wasn’t really relevant in her life and she went to a meeting. And at this meeting she saw deliverance for the first time in her life.  She had been challenged and when she was challenged she started reading the Bible for the first time in her life and thinking about spiritual things but myself, Shirley her husband Marc we went to a meeting and it was a long trip out there.  We were on the Maryland side and this was on the Virginia. So we get there and Derrick Prince gave a wonderful message but it was long. And then he said everyone that wants deliverance come into the basement.  My sister thought that it would be a good show she went there; she didn’t go for deliverance of course she went for the show.  In fact she even figured out what she would say to someone if they asked what demon do you have?  And so they’re sitting there watching the show; and what happened next Shirley?

Shirley: The show had become more than what I propositioned for. And started frightening me when I heard the screams from people in the room.  They weren’t human screams anymore they were like minimalistic and so I turn to my husband to tell him I wanted to leave, I was frightened. My tongue flipped back in my mouth and I couldn’t speak.  And then I was thinking “What in the world is happening and then I looked down at my hands are closed in tight fists and I had very long nails then.

Sid: I have to ask you something Shirley; had you ever had drugs.

Shirley: No, never.

Sid: Had you ever had anything happen to you remotely close to what you’re describing?

Shirley:  Never, never I had no idea what was going on with me; I didn’t think of demons.  Well, let me tell you what happened.  My hands; my palms; my hands were completely closed and I tried to open them because they were hurting me because my nails were digging into my palms.  And I couldn’t open my hands and tears started. I remember crying; tears started coming down and all I could think in my logical mind was “I’ve been hit with an instant paralysis I need to get to a hospital. And this man comes over to me and says “Name your demon,” and I look at him and I’m thinking in my mind “What is he crazy doesn’t he see that I need an ambulance or something I need to get to a hospital something’s happened to me.”  And he just walked away and then 2 minutes later or a few minutes later another person comes over to me and says “Name your demon.”  And my mouth opens up and says “Demon of fear.”  And I’m like shocked myself because I had no idea where that came from; it was not like I’m thinking “I had a demon I need to be delivered or anything.”  It just said “Demon of fear.”  And then the person said a very simple prayer and cast the demon out of me and hands opened up; I could talk and that’s when I really knew that there really is a God and there really is a devil and the way to Him is through Yeshua; to God is through Yeshua.  And that’s when I lifted my hands and accepted the Lord because I knew He was real.

Sid: That was over 30 years ago.

Shirley:  Yes, but let me tell you something; a little side.  That demon of fear I never realized I had it but all of my life I was very very shy. I was really afraid of people.  And had maybe 2 or 3 good friends and I accepted myself like that and I said “That’s my personality I’m a shy person so what if I’m not real friendly and you know sociable.” Any way after the demon of fear left me I loved people.  It’s not something I try to do; all of a sudden I had such a love for people.  I wanted to meet people; it was so amazing to me it was truly something binding me up all my life that spirit of fear that made me so shy; so afraid of people.

Sid: Let me take you back a little bit; you were digging your finger nails into your palm; what happened with your tongue?

Shirley:  It like did a flip flop in my mouth and I couldn’t speak.  Tears, I was crying because I didn’t know what was going on with me. 

Sid: Alright; when they said identify your demon and you said “A spirit of fear.”  You had never even thought about that.

Shirley: No.

Sid: How did you know that?

Shirley: I told you I have no idea where that voice came from; I couldn’t even talk before that and all of a sudden my mouth opens up and says demon of fear. I was thinking what is he talking about I need an ambulance.

Sid: (Laughing) Okay, you said demon of fear.  And then they very gently not screaming or anything commanded it to leave.  And then what happened?

Shirley: And my palms opened up; I could speak again; I had such a peace over me.  I just knew that everything I’d been reading; everything I’d been hearing was truth.

Sid: Alright I want to hear from my brother-in-law; your husband Marc.  Would you put him on right now?

Shirley:  Yes.

Marc: Hello.   

Sid: Hi Marc I want to take you back a bit; tell me about your own Jewish upraising.

Marc:  Okay, I was brought up in a conservative type of Jewish background; more secular than anything.  But I did go to an Orthodox Synagogue 7 days a week.  I was studying for my bar-mitzvah.  Which took me about 5 years and I learned Hebrew, meaning I learned to speak it, write it, and read it, but not understand it.  Which is the real draw back especially when you move to Israel.

Sid: Okay, let me take you back you had a cousin of ours; Terry living in your house and she was talking about suicide.  She was into drugs; you didn’t know that when she moved in. But you had that problem and I invited a friend of mine by the name of Don Tobias over to pray over Terry.  And he started talking about Jesus as the Jewish Messiah and I couldn’t believe my eyes you were one of the people that said a prayer of salvation to believe in Jesus.  That was before this deliverance thing and everything else.

Marc: Oh yeah.

Sid: Why did you?

Marc:  Well, I was just like it felt like to me I was mesmerized at the time and I just said the prayer and later on I said “I don’t know if this is right for me; I’m Jewish.” And I wasn’t brought up believing in Jesus.  So I just as a conservative person I am; an accountant I just sat back and it took me a year watching my wife.

Sid: So you rejected that prayer almost immediately the next day.

Marc: Yes I did; yes.

Sid: Okay, Shirley your wife becomes a Jewish believer in Messiah; your brother-in-law me, Sid, becomes a Jewish believer in the Messiah You’re the one holdout; did it bother you that Shirley became a believer in Jesus.

Marc: No, no I was just moving along with my own life just enjoying being married to my wife and having our children and life was normal.

Sid: It was okay that she was a believer in Jesus?

Marc:  Oh yes, yes.  

Sid: Okay.

Marc: In other words like if she felt like she needed to believe in Jesus.  I said “That’s up to you that’s your own decision.”  I felt that mine was I believed in God and being Jewish; I didn’t have a need to have to, at that point, to ask Jesus into my life.

Sid: And then one day a tragedy happened.

Marc:  Oh yes.

Sid: What happened?

Marc:  Our daughter who at that time during the summer was 21 months old, and she fell into the swimming pool that we had in our backyard and she drowned.  

Sid: We’re out of time.

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Sid Roth on October 9th, 2014

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Sid:  My guest is so red hot for the Messiah, Perry Stone, that he has invested and it was an investment and it was for you; 80,000 hours of studying the Word of God.  He totally demystifies the book of Revelation.  For the first time in your life you will be excited about it because you’re going to understand it.  You’re going to understand the symbolism; you’re going to understand end time events.  And as a matter of fact Perry Stone there’s something that just seems to be so confusing to most Christians.  And it’s got to do with the rapture; is it pre-trib, mid-trib; is it pre-wrath; there’s so many of these different views that are floating around.  Many people say this whole pre-trib rapture was developed by some woman in the 1800′s.  Let’s start out with basics; define what the rapture is. What does the word even mean?

Perry: Well one of the complaints that either you or I for example say “Well, it’s nowhere in the New Testament so you’re using a word that not in the Bible.”  First of all we use theological words in English, trinity is not in the Bible; millennial reign is not in the Bible; 2nd coming is not in the Bible.  They are terms that are not in the Bible that we use to identify certain scriptures and what they refer to; that’s point 1.  Rapture comes from the Latin comes from the Latin translation of the Bible by St. Jerome. And it comes out of 1st Thessalonians 4.  “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout; the voice of the archangel and the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first.  We which are alive and remain shall be (and here’s the phrase) caught up.”  And in the Greek it’s harpazo which means to snatch up suddenly by force to cease out of dangers way.  But when translating from Greek to Latin we came up with… it comes up with the English word translated from Latin rapture.  To be caught up with joy; to be caught up ecstasy to be generally to be caught up.  So he used that word.  Now we use the English word. Now the Bible talks about the gathering together unto Him.  It talks about the general assembly of the firstborn in heaven.  I mean if people wanted to call the catching up and the gather together of the general assembly; or the gathering together; the catching up.  Those terms are fine but we speak… we take one word that people generally know what you’re talking about when you say that word.  The concept of it is in the Bible.  It is when the dead in Christ are raised from mortal to immortality and the living saints are changed in a moment in a twinkling of an eye; the sound of the last trump. And together we are with the Lord not only in the air but we meet with Him in heaven.  Because Jesus said in John 14 “If I go I will come again and receive you unto myself.” So He predicted this in His own ministry.  So the idea about when the doctrine originated now this…

Sid:  Now I’ve heard the 1800′s is that true?

Perry: No, in fact this idea where the people say “The catching away teaching is not found in any early fathers and it started in the 1800′s.  In the Greek Orthodox Church; or the Orthodox Church a man named Ephraim the Syrian in the 5th century who was an early father in that branch of the church.  And in “Cave of the Treasures” and in “Treaties of the Antichrist” he specially talks about the Lord coming before the tribulation.  Because the Protestant Church came out of Roman Catholicism.  A lot of the documents that we use are the early fathers from the Roman side.  Which would be Origin, Portentous and these particular fathers, however, from the Greek side the Greek churches have the documents for years; and I’ve talked to guys that are 10 years scholars in the Orthodox Branch and they say “We have had a teaching in among the fathers of a return and a return before the tribulation.”  So that’s a whole other issue there. But the point is “Where is it in the Bible?”  Okay now let me have people follow me here very carefully.  First of all the pattern of the rapture is Exodus 19 because everything revealed in the New Testament has a root somewhere in the Torah, the 5 books of Moses.  Exodus 19 is Moses going on Mt. Sinai (notice the place) And it says “That there was lightning, thunder, smoke, voice of the trumpet, the “tikiah hagadolah” voice of the trumpet waxing louder and longer.  Then it says and the Lord came down and Moses went up.  So the pattern of the catching away and the Lord descending from heaven and the saints going up is Exodus 19.  Now having said that come to the New Testament.  The apostle Paul talks about after his conversion how he went into Arabia where he spent time receiving the revelation of Jesus Christ.  He then tells you in chapter 3 Mt. Sinai is in Arabia.  Now heres what happened.  After Paul conversion he was going to be a preacher to the gentiles after he goes to Mt. Sinai in Arabia where Moses got the commandments and he received 7 revelations from Jesus Christ that nobody else had received.  As a matter of fact in the New Testament… and we bring this out in the “Apocalypse Code” teachings that there were 7 revelations that Paul received.  The revelation of Israel’s blindness in Revelation 11.  The grafting in of the Gentiles.  The Revelation of the… in the church. You know all these different revelations he got that alone and wrote about them in his letters.  Now here’s what’s interesting; when Paul returned back to write his first letter according to scholars the 14 letters that Paul wrote if we assume that he wrote the book of Hebrews.  And I believe he did, so these 14 epistles that Paul wrote of 14 letters the very first one just happens to be the 1st Thessalonica, Greece that was 1st Thessalonians.  In our Bible in Bible in 1st Thessalonians is divided into 5 chapters.  In each chapter he mentions the return of the Lord but in chapter 4 he gives a church a revelation that never been known to this level before. About the Lord descending from heaven and the saints being caught up to meet the Lord in the air.  Now here’s a question Sid you’re going to love this.  Why did the Lord wait until the Apostle Paul was called as a preacher to Gentiles to reveal the revelation of the catching away of the Church?  And the answer is and I love this.  In Acts 2 all the way to Acts right up to chapter 10 the Church was all Jewish because Gentiles had not yet been brought into the covenant.  In Acts 10 the first Gentiles are brought into the covenant. So God waits until the church is both Jew and Gentile; you talked about the One New Man there He waits.  And then in chapter 9 you have the conversion; you have chapter 9 the conversion of Saul of Tarsus the preacher to the Gentiles the Jewish Rabbi that was going to go to Mount Sinai to get the revelation of this rapture.  And then after the Gentiles are grafted into the covenant in chapter 10 you suddenly see Paul preaching and he starts preaching to Jews and Gentiles about the Messiah revealing these revelations in these letters.  So the first letter Paul wrote he reveals the catching away of the saints because he’d been on Mt. Sinai where the Lord had come down and Moses went up and received the law and now he’s receiving the revelation of the covenant and the message of the covenant.  This is all in the book of Galatians in the same place where Moses received the Torah and revelation of the things of God.  And so the rapture teaching, or the catching away teaching, was the very first thing that God taught the church and God waited.  See Israel knew that there was coming a Messianic kingdom; they knew the King was going to come back to the earth.  Zechariah said “His feet would come to the Mount of Olives. He would stand there and the Mount would split and the King would rule from Jerusalem.” The Jews already knew the Messiah was going to come back to rule on the earth.  That was established throughout the Old Covenant, but what nobody realized was that there was going to be another return of which believers who believe in Christ would be resurrected; the dead in Christ and the saints of God would be changed to meet the Lord in the air.  And then we would return after the judgment; the bemah; the marriage supper of the Lamb all of that takes place in heaven.  And then we return with the King to the earth to fulfill the scriptures which were given to ancient Israel about their King Messiah.  So Paul’s revelation actually came in the same place where Moses had received the Torah which is on Mount Sinai in Arabia. To me that just when I dug this out; Grant Jeffrey you knew Grant.

Sid: Of course.

Perry: He was a prophecy writer. Grant told me he said “Perry I’ve studies things all my life and never put that together till you taught it.”

Sid:  You’ve put so many things together in your teaching on Revelation.  But the big debate with many of my friends is not whether they’ll be a rapture.  I mean that’s a no brainer; the big debate is it going to be before the tribulation; in the middle of the tribulation; just before the wrath.  And then there’s dozens of other views.  With your 80,000 hours of study what’s your conclusion?

Perry:  Let’s just take one little nugget here and the early father’s agree on this.  That the first 42 months of the tribulation 2 witnesses come.  Some say Elijah and Moses; some say Elijah and Enoch.  I’ll stick with Elijah and Enoch, but I don’t argue it.  Elijah is definitely one of them based on Malachi 4:5.  He will return the first 42 months as the 2 witness mentioned in Revelation 11.  Now follow me carefully Revelation 11, 12 and 13 is the middle of the 7 year tribulation period.  But in the middle of the 7 year tribulation period these 2 witnesses are killed.  Now Sid; think for a moment you do not see the church in the book of Revelation after chapter 3.  The word church, Ecclesia, is not mentioned anywhere from that point on.  Now interesting enough in chapter 4 verse 1 there’s a transition.  John hears a voice saying “Come up hither.” Hears a voice of a trumpet and immediately he’s in the Spirit at the throne room and there’s these elders and beasts are worshiping God.  And then a multitude is crying out “You have redeemed us out of every nation.”  That’s the church they have been caught up.  But when you look at this how the book of Revelation is set up you discover that the church… Christ told the believers pray that you be accounted worthy to escape all of these things and to stand before the Son of Man.  Now would we pray worthy to escape; escape what?  And the answer is in beginning in chapter 6 of Revelation you see the tribulation judgments being poured out.  Now let me go back to these 2 witnesses for a moment because it’s real interesting.  If the church is still on earth the first 42 months of tribulation what is the necessity of 2 witnesses because they are the only ones declaring the gospel.  They’re the only ones on earth preaching the gospel these 2 men.  Now if the church is still here we should be preaching because we’re supposed to preach and then the end come according to Matthew 24:14.  The second thing is when the 2 witnesses are killed and raised back up to God in heaven then the last 42 months of tribulation begins.  And it says an angel comes down from heaven preaching the everlasting gospel and warning people not to take the mark; an angel.  So where’s the church?  How come the church is not warning people?

Sid: Whoops I’ll give everyone a warning we’re out of time right now.

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Sid Roth on October 3rd, 2014

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Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Pastor Charles Cowan he’s pastor of the 2000 member church in Nashville, Tennessee called Faith Is The Victory Church.  We’re interviewing him this week on his brand new book called “How to Deal With the Cares of Life.”  And before we went on the air Pastor Charles you started talking about the need for us to be in position and ready, explain.

Charles:  This is a crucial hour as we all know for the Body of Christ in the earth today. This is a time that the harvest that God is going to make a sweep across the world and through the nations of the world and bring the nations of the world into the Kingdom of God. Now how that affects every child of God is this is that every child of God has been given from God something that they are to supply to the Body of Christ that will aid in this end-time harvest and move of God.  So they have to be ready. I remember one time and talking about being ready that I pulled out a new Bible and my old one had you know had just about worn it out and I had all of the writings and things on the margins of my Bible like we do.  So I pulled out this new Bible and I drove up to Louisville, Kentucky my wife and I did my wife and I did. We went up there to be in a meeting with Brother Kenneth Hagin or to be in attendance at the meeting.  So when I got up there that day and walked in and Brother Hagin saw me I went up and I greeted him.  And he said to me “Well when you walked in here today into this meeting today and I saw you” and he said “The Spirit of God spoke to me and told me to have you teach in this afternoon’s service.”

Sid: Hm.

Charles: Well, I got a brand new Bible; I didn’t bring a note one and I don’t have anything written in the margins of this new Bible; in fact the pages are still stuck together.   

Sid: I’ve been in that position I know.

Charles:  And I said to him “Brother Hagin are you sure?” And he said “Yes, I’m sure.”  So we chatted a little bit and then I said to him again “Now Brother Hagin are you sure?”    And he said “Charles if I were not sure I would not have asked you.” So it was right then that I had to be ready to face what it was that he had asked me to do and had to be ready to do it.  Well you see that true in every area. Had I not been in prayer and in study the days or the weeks you see prior to that week going up to that meeting there I might not had been a position; I would not had been ready you see. But because of what I had prepared myself thought study and prayer and seeking God and that kind of thing then I was ready for the moment; I was ready for what God put in front of me right then and there.  So I got up there and I just began to take a scripture and I began to teach in the Spirit of God brought the anointing in there and thank God He came through and it was fine.  And you know the anointing was flowing and everything worked out because I was ready.  Now here’s the thing about it today, people in the Body of Christ now they may not be a minister but they have something to supply to the Body of Christ in this hour.  They need to be ready like I was ready at that time through their preparation and prayer.  

Sid: It reminds me of a woman that I interviewed that was just doing grocery shopping or shopping at a store and she goes to her car and all of a sudden there’s a gun in her ribs.  I mean how are you ready for something like that? If you’re not ready you’re not ready.

Charles:  Oh, I’m telling you. It’s like I have a missionary friend who was a missionary down in Mexico at the time and he had his…  He was driving his van and someone when he stopped at a stop sign someone just opened the door and got in the Van with him and put a gun in his ribs and told him where to go where to drive.  So he had him to drive out of town into a vacant field, or lot, and told him to get out of the van.  And he got out of the van and he told him to walk around to the front and he met this missionary in the front of the van and put this gun almost touching him between the eyes, not quite.  And was going to… and pulled the trigger on that thing.  And this missionary said that when that bullet came out of the end of the barrel of that gun it dropped immediately and fell to the ground.  He was ready he knew that no weapon formed against him would prosper.  Now you’ve got to be ready in a time like that because fear will absolutely just demoralize you at that point and time that you are looking down the barrel of a revolver.  And that guy you know he means business he’s going to pull that trigger.  If you don’t know you’re ready; I’m not just talking about ready to go the heaven that’s obviously very very that’s right on top of the list.   But if you’re not ready to confront a thing like that fear will totally dislodge you off of the word of God and you will then not be able to come though those things in that victorious way.  But he said that bullet came out of that thing and fell to the ground and he said it so terrorized or scared the man that did that that the man took off running and ran out of that field back up onto the road and left him there with his van.  God had delivered him because he was ready for the moment. That’s what we need to be here in this hour because we’re confronted with the terrorism that our nation, that the world is confronted with we need to be ready at all times at whatever situation or circumstance that we might find ourselves in. Or whatever God tells us to do, we need to be ready to face it we need to be ready to do it it’s a crucial hour.  I believe that God wants to use every person under the sound of our voice today; every person in the Body of Christ God want has something for them to do.  It has something that He’s placed within them to give to the Body of Christ to help compact and knit it together and make it to be the powerful powerful thing that it is in the world.

Sid: But that’s why you wrote this book because you explain that if we don’t deal properly with the cares of life it will put us out of position to be used in our destiny.

Charles:  Yes, and see what people have to understand is that I cannot supply to the Body what God has placed in them to give to the Body.  I can only supply what God has given to me; and with all of us working together and moving together and learning how to deal with cares of life, or learning how to deal with the pressures.  Learning how to deal with the stress that wants to come until we’re able to do that we’re not going to be able to give the Body of Christ what God has placed within us through your ministry and through your radio through your television ministry and the other facets of your ministry.  You’re giving to the Body of Christ what I could never give to the Body of Christ; but you’re giving it because you’re ready.  You are prepared for the moment for this time; you know how to deal with all of the pressures that come to you. And you know this we all know this pressures and cares in ministry come to us all. Just because we are ministers or have a ministry does not exclude us or eliminate us from cares or pressures and things that we can worry about if we could allow ourselves to do it. But yet we have to keep ourselves ready so that the ministry that God’s placed us in will not suffer because of our lack of readiness to carry forth the assignment that God has given to us. So we are ready to deal with whatever it is that Satan would bring against us to subvert, to undermine, and to destroy what God has called us to do in the earth at this time.  Every voice of God, not just a few, but every voice of God is critical in this hour because you are reaching people today; this broadcast is reaching people today that other ministry and other ministers cannot reach because God has assigned this to you to reach these people that you’re reaching today and we have to be ready in this hours. We cannot fail and we will not fail and we will be ready in this hour and in this time. And we’re going to have to do it by learning how to deal with the cares of life.  Not coping with the cares of life but dealing with them from the standpoint of God’s word and God’s power so that He can elevate us above them so that we can accomplish everything that God has assigned us to do, called us to do, equipped us to do.  And I believe that the Body of Christ is rising to that place today and I believe that we once again are going to have the voice in the world that God intended the Body of Christ to have.  We’re going to have that type of influence in these times in these days that we live.

Sid: You know Charles we’re out of time again; thank you so much for being my guest.

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Sid Roth on September 22nd, 2014

Bill Morford

Sid: My guest by way of telephone at his home in Lexington, South Carolina is William Morford he’s the translator what is rapidly becoming my favorite reading New Testament, it’s called “The Power New Testament” subtitle “Revealing Jewish Roots.” Because there are Hebrew Idioms to what Jesus was saying.  And then the way Bill you brought out the tenses as I read and it’s in modern English, the whole thing becomes maybe you should call it “The Alive New Testament.”

Bill:  (Laughing)

Sid: Rather than “The Power New Testament.” Why is it that the other Bibles don’t capture this?

Bill:   I certainly don’t understand it because when you take Greek this is the way you’re told that it should be translated.  But when the others translate it they leave out the extra punch that’s there in the Greek.

Sid: How did you first get attracted? I know how you got attracted to the Greek, but how did you even.  I mean the average Christian doesn’t know these idioms, these Hebrewisms. How did you understand this, how did you learn this?

Bill:  I went to a Rabbi… we moved to Lakeland, Florida just before I started before the Lord told me to get serious in translating.  And we moved there just to… because we felt that that’s where the Lord wanted us. We didn’t know anyone in Lakeland, but we felt that He put me in touch with a Messianic Rabbi so I could get Hebrew references that I needed.   After we got to Lakeland we found out that there was no Messianic Rabbi there, but there was Rabbi Eliezer Ben-Yehuda a Jewish Rabbi who was a great help.  Personally going through scripture with me and giving me reference books.

Sid: And for those that are tuning in for the first time this particular Rabbi’s grandfather was the single person that pioneered Hebrew to be a modern speaking language in Israel.  And actually came up with many of the words so you could not have found a better teacher Bill.

Bill:  Right, certainly not and what made him even better than his scholarship was his attitude and his helpfulness. And he feels that part of his call is to be a bridge between Christians and Jews.  So he was very helpful. We’ve became very good friends.  And we’ve been to their home for Pesach, or Passover, and for other feasts days it’s really wonderful.

Sid: Bill, I want you to teach some of the things that I’ve been gleaning from reading your “Power New Testament.”

Bill: Okay, let’s start at Acts 18 with the first verse that says “Paul going to Corinth after these things he left from Athens and went to Corinth and when he found a certain Jewish man name Aquila a native of Pontus who came recently from who came recently from Italy with Priscilla his wife, because of the order of Claudius to separate all the Jewish people from Rome, Paul came to them and because they were in the same trade he was staying with them and he was working.  For they all were prayer shawl makers by trade.  And he was discussing in the synagogue…

Sid: Wait a second, my Bible says “Tentmakers.”

Bill:  Well, they say that but that’s not right.  The word that’s translated tentmaker is “skenopoios” and it does not appear in any other Greek writing anywhere.  So whether it was commonly used by the Jewish people in those days or not whether Luke just made it up we don’t know.  But we do know that a man named Bauer who did the Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich Greek-English Lexicon this is over a hundred years ago. He wrote a whole column on that one word and concluded that he didn’t know what it was, but that it was something that required technical training.  The technical training that we know all three had was rabbinic training.  And that was required to make prayer shawl.

Sid: So you believe that Paul’s tent making, so to speak, was making tallits, prayer shawls.

Bill:  Absolutely.

Sid: By the way you have some fascinating information about the prayer shawl. For instance when the woman with the issue of blood reached out to touch the garment of Jesus, you don’t call it a garment do you. What do you call it?

Bill:  That’s the prayer shawl.

Sid: And why was that so important and you explain this in your footnotes.  “When she reached out to touch the fringes of the prayer shawl.

Bill:  Well the fringe, the tseetseet is the Hebrew word. The reason it was made is given in the 15 chapter of Numbers and it was made that all could look upon it and remember all the commandments and promises of God.  So that when she touched that she knew that on a holy man of God that that fringe represented all the commandments and all the promises for her, and those promises included her healing. For the Lord said “I am the Lord your healer.”  Way back in the wilderness he said that.

Sid: Now I just have a vision of someone putting the prayer shawl on that’s in dire need of being healed.  And when they grab hold of the fringes and I know that this is just a point of contact but there’s something so supernatural about the prayer shawl that when you grab hold of the fringes of the prayer shawl you’re grabbing hold of every promise in God’s word having to do with healing. That’s exactly what that woman with that issue of blood did.

Bill:  Absolutely, no question about it.

Sid: Okay, if you would teach further.

Bill:  Well there’s a another meaning to it; of course well, before I get to the next meaning, I want to say on the fringe the Greek work is consistent in using… in referring to the fringe.  It’s Kraspedon and it just means fringe, it never meant hem or anything like it.

Sid:  Well, where did we get hem from; rather than fringe? 

Bill: Who knows you’ll have to wait until you get to heaven and ask those that…

Sid: They did not… you know what it was the translators were great Greek scholars but they didn’t know their Jewish roots.  And let’s face it the New Testament was written for Jews in a Jewish nation by Jews.  I mean what do you expect give me a break you know.

Bill: (Laughing) Exactly. You’re right you know. And the other thing that I was going to get to in a different meaning that has been confirmed by using the Septuagint.  And that’s in 1st Corinthians 11 getting down I want to read that whole paragraph.  But I’ll start with verse 14 “Does not nature teach you this that the man on the one hand has long hair it’s a disgrace to him.”  And of course that was the custom in the Roman Empire in the lst Century that men wore very short hair.  But on the other hand for a woman it is her glory.  Because the hair was given to her as an ornament in place of a prayer shawl.  And the word translated prayer shawl there is the same word that’s used in the Septuagint for prayer shawl in Deuteronomy 22:12.

Sid:  So you mean these woman that cut their hair to the point where you can barely see they have any hair today they’re not reflecting the prayer shawl.

Bill: (Laughing)

Sid: (Laughing) Is that what the word is saying?

Bill:  Yes.

Sid: I’m going to get into trouble. I better watch out.

Bill:  Exactly right well, woman wear prayer shawls today. And it’s a question of hair custom in the first century on that.  And I know that in conservative synagogues woman use prayer shawls.

Sid: And by the way I get questions all the time from woman that says “Is it acceptable for me to put on a prayer shawl and pray?”  And the answer is “You are free.”

Bill:  (Laughing)

Sid: You are a free person and if that’s going to enhance your worship of God and your prayer and your communion with God go for it.

Bill:  See the command is to put it on the corners of a square or a rectangular garment.  And the prayer shawl in the wilderness was their outer garment. And the 1st Century Israel it was their outer garment that they still had and is more like a poncho with a whole cut in the middle.  In fact, the description of Jesus garment in John 19 that the soldiers cast lots for that fits the garment that was worn in the wilderness.  The poncho like garment and the fringes were placed on the corners.  And in fact a recent issue of Biblical Archeology Review had pictures taken in Jerusalem in the mid nineteenth century and there was several people in those pictures who were wearing garments that were not quite like the poncho but were very similar. And there’s no question that that’s what it was. And Rabbi Ben-Yehuda told me that a number of those garments dating back to roughly the 1st century have been uncovered by modern archeology.  But again we are free. There is nothing in the commandment to put the fringes on the garment that says “Only men could wear those garments.”  It was just put the fringes on the garment and that garment described what the men were wearing at that time.

Sid: Bill just out of curiosity because you bring out these idioms that there is no way of understanding the Jewish roots of the faith. By you call it “The Power New Testament” because you bring out the tenses.  It becomes so alive. I mean I am so excited about this translation. What feedback are you getting not from someone like me that comes from a Jewish background but someone that’s never been taught these things when they read your “Power New Testament” for the first time, what do they say to you?

Bill:  We have a stack of letters people just saying how much it’s opened things up for them.  I got a letter from a pastor in Michigan just recently just said “Wow!”

Sid: We’re out of time right now Bill.

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