Sid: We are coming into an amazing time on planet earth; we’re getting ready for the great Jewish wedding. We’re getting ready for the wrap up and one thing that occurred to me is that we’ve had an emphasize; we have had an emphasis in the body of Messiah on understanding who Jesus is. We’ve had an emphasis in the Body of Messiah an understanding who the Holy Spirit is, but we’re getting ready for an outpouring of revelation of who God the Father is. And in order for you to understand who God the Father is God raises up and individual who they’re life experience allows you to grasp this spiritual truth. And I have such a person on the telephone and her name is A.J. Jones and she has experienced the love of the Father. And she maintains and I maintain that we cannot receive the love God has for us; the security God has for us; the peace that God has for us; the healing that God has for us; the rest that God has for us; the promises that God has for us unless we come to have intimacy. And that’s the right word and I come from a Jewish background which is similar to many people that come from a Catholic background. You see God up there in the sky with a big stick ready to hit you over the head the minute you make a mistake; and you don’t understand the New Covenant revelation that says that God is love. But unless you can experience the love of the Father then it’s like a brick wall on these other promises from God; and A.J. has a revelation of this. A.J. I’m going to take you back to the beginning so to speak, what are the earliest memories you have of your father?
AJ: Well, my father was an alcoholic and he was very angry so my earliest memory, I think I was around three and my parents were fighting and I came down stairs to ask them to stop and I was just standing there yelling, “Stop it, stop it” and my Dad in his anger picked up a chair and threw it and knocked me down a flight of stairs.
Sid: That had to be about as traumatic, here you look to your father as your source of protection so to speak, your covering, so to speak your trust must have gone out the window when he did that.
AJ: Yeah, I mean I don’t know if I ever really saw my Dad like that because he was always so scary to me so…
Sid: Because he was drinking?
AJ: Yeah, and he was angry, I mean he was very angry.
Sid: I don’t quite understand it because fortunately I’ve never been an alcoholic, but I normally see there’s a lot of anger with alcoholics.
AJ: Yeah, well there’s a reason they’re drinking you know, they’re trying to deal with something too that they’re going through and it just comes out with those people that are closest to you doesn’t it.
Sid: Did you hurt yourself when you fell down the stairs?
AJ: You know I don’t particularly remember that experience that well, I remember it hurt but I don’t know if I broke anything with that; with that one.
Sid: Now, what about your mother, would she stand up for you when your father was drunk?
AJ: Yeah, well she would yell, I mean everybody yelled in our house, but she would yell if my older brother was home, he’d try to get in the way; you know it was such a scary environment to even try and survive in. But I mean most of my Dad’s anger was directed towards my mother, but it just that I would get in the way because I just couldn’t handle watching him choke her or do whatever he was doing and so…
Sid: Now, your mother drank also.
AJ: Yeah, she did.
Sid: And this sounds awful, but your mother, who had that maternal instinct to protect her children, tried to protect you with your safe place the closet; tell me about that.
AJ: Well, I would hide in the closet, I had a bunch of like stuffed animals and stuff in the closet and if they were fighting, usually they fought at like you know; midnight or 2:00 in the morning or whatever. And I would go and I would you know go and I would close my door and kind of barricade myself inside the closet and sit with my stuffed animals; and so she tried to make that a safe place for me to hide.
Sid: And you developed and what I find that many people that develop a specific diseases there are physiological reasons that they’ve entered into those diseases; one is asthma. Now obviously with everything going on in your life it’s understandable how the asthma got triggered and this was not just your ordinary asthma, but it was pretty bad in your case.
AJ: Yeah, it was very bad; it was very very bad. It wasn’t sort of average asthma it was severe asthma and so I would often have attacks. Like I would have them several times a week and not just like you would use a puffer and then be fine. I would end up in the hospital; you know I spent time in oxygen tents. By the time I was about eighteen or nineteen I had over four hundred hospital bracelets, so I mean I had a really tough time with it.
Sid: And your parents separated for obvious reasons and as a matter of fact and they were headed towards divorce; so you were staying for safety purposes with your grandparents. But you decided to go back home to your mother as your mother assured you your father was gone but he wasn’t, was he.
AJ: Well, he wasn’t, like they had you know done the whole legal separation and gotten two different houses to live in. But we had to go back to the house that we all lived in together to just make sure that we had everything that we wanted because we were moving to a much smaller house; I think they were having somebody come in and get the rest of the stuff or something. So my mom had said to me, “You never have to see your Dad again,” when she had picked me up from my Grandparents house and I was thrilled because I never wanted to see him again. But then when we walked into the house; the old house my Dad was sitting there in the kitchen and I was pretty shocked to even you know come in the house and find him there because I had been promised I wouldn’t ever have to see him, but he was there.
Sid: How did you react?
AJ: Well, not well. I mean I remember walking in and just sort of freezing and my Dad said to me, “How can you do this to me, I love you.” You know because the whole separation and divorce had kind of gone down because it was my fault because I had finally told somebody you know I was thirteen and I couldn’t take it anymore. And so he said, “How can you do this to me, I love you? And I remember saying, “Well, you have a very strange way of showing it and you need to know that I hate you and I hope you die.” And I just took off, I just ran out of the house.
Sid: When he would send you presents, I mean to me that’s the hatred, the fear that you must have had as a young person reacted, your actions reflected it. But what did you do when your father was trying to make amends and send you presents?
AJ: Ah, well my parents sort of excelled that, if they messed up they would you know buy a gift because we had some money to that. And so that was sort of his way of trying to seek restoration, but again I was so angry and so hurt and so afraid. So he would send gifts and it didn’t matter how badly I wanted it, and he was good at getting gifts. I would smash them to little tiny pieces and mail them back to his address because I just really wanted him to get the message I didn’t want him in my life anymore. And I mean he actually sent me flowers twice and the first time I waited for them to die and then mailed them back. And the second time I didn’t have that level of patience and so I cut them up and I poured Draino over them and mailed them back so. Canada Post was making a lot of money off of my issues.
Sid: Speaking of issues, I mean you were suicidal, anorexic, suffering from severe asthma. You must have had one miserable life as a young child.
AJ: Yeah, I was barely surviving.
Sid: And where was God in this equation, what did you know about God?
AJ: I didn’t really know anything about God, I went to church sometimes with my mom, but I didn’t really get the message that Jesus loved me or anything like that; I just remember going and thinking it was about dressing properly, or acting properly. And it didn’t really feel like life to me and then I had a cousin who was the oldest of eight Baptist kids and she would try and tell me that Jesus loved me and she would try to kind of evangelize me. But I was so angry and confused about what my life looked like and how that could possibly line up with God loving me and I couldn’t really receive it.
Sid: Well, your hatred went beyond your father; you also had a rivalry with your siblings; especially you and your sister used to fight. And you wanted to hurt your sister; it was her Birthday and your way of hurting her was to have something else go on. What was that something else?
AJ: Well, it’s funny cause with my sister, we didn’t usually fight that much, but when we did fight it was pretty full on and so we had this big fight and it was her Birthday and so I wanted to hurt her feelings and so my Baptist cousin that I was telling you about she called and invited me to a youth retreat. And I had no desire to go to a youth retreat, but I did have a desire to get my sister back because I was mad at her and so I agreed to go away on her Birthday.
Sid: I’ll tell you what, hold that thought, we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast. You know Mishpochah many of you have never really ever experienced the love of Father God and you’re in for a treat. And you know it’s possible to walk in the love of Father God 24-7. And do you know that when you understand how to receive His love, all of the promises of God; all the peace of God; all the rest of God, it’ll be restored to you.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. And there is a Scripture; it’s found in the prophet Isaiah, the 9th Chapter, the 10th Verse, in which it includes nine harbingers, warnings for Israel. It’s God’s heart saying, “Please, Israel, turn from your wickedness so I can bless you.” But it’s progressive judgments that come to Israel until finally they’re totally wiped off the land. Now we don’t want to see this happen in the United States of America. And that’s why I’ve asked Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. It takes a Messianic Jewish rabbi with a prophetic bent that lives right outside of New York City; that actually went to the grounds of 9/11 and was able to put this together. Now Jonathan, there’s a mystery about the trees. Explain that to me.
JONATHAN: The key in Isaiah 9:10 says, the next part of it says, “The sycamores have been cut down.” Now what is that? The Assyrians came in, that warning strike, they ravaged the land. The sycamores were ravaged. And it’s a biblical sign of judgment. Actually, it occurs in Egypt. There’s a sign that says, “God struck down the sycamore; national judgment; a sign of uprooting. God was going to uproot the nation if it didn’t turn back to Him. So the sycamores have fallen. But what does that have to do with America? First of all, the terrorists of 9/11 weren’t interested in sycamores. They struck cities, not field. The sycamore has to be struck down, a sign of national judgment. So what happens? Amazing – eerie thing. On 9/11, the last tower, the northern tower is crashing to the ground, sends out a beam into the air. It just so happens all around Ground Zero there’s concrete, asphalt buildings. But there’s one little plot of land that has soil, and it strikes an object. The object is a tree. What kind of tree? It’s the sycamore. Just happened to be growing at the corner of Ground Zero? It struck down…A sign of national judgment? But how?
SID: So from the wreckage, something fell from the tower, which is a sign of national judgment.
JONATHAN: Yes. Absolutely. First of all, the sycamore of Israel was the Middle Eastern sycamore. It matched Israel. But God translated the harbinger; this is the western sycamore, which is named after that very Middle Eastern sycamore of Isaiah 9:10. It happens to be struck down right at the corner of Ground Zero. And the people, there’s something strange about the harbingers, they make signs of them. They take the fallen sycamore and they make it a sign, and they call it “The Sycamore of Ground Zero.” People gather. They put it on display. It’s supposed to be a symbol of hope. They have no idea this is an ancient harbinger of judgment of a nation, of uprooting if it doesn’t turn back to God.
SID: Tell me the second tree.
JONATHAN: Okay. You go on right. It’s in progression. Precisely down the prophecy, it says, the sycamores have fallen, but Israel vows, “We will plant cedars in their place.” Same thing as the stone. They’re saying, okay, you struck down our sycamores. God, we’re not going to be humbled. We’re going to take a stronger tree, the cedar, and we’re going to rise like that tree. It’s going to be a symbol of the nation and we’re going to come back stronger than ever. So the sign is, the harbinger is they plant the cedar. The cedar, the word of course is English. The original word is the erez tree. Erez means “cedar”, but it also means any conifer tree, a coniferous tree. Literally, the most exact translation is pinaceae tree. So just keep that in mind. The harbinger has to be they have to take the sycamore out and replace it, not with another sycamore, which would be natural, but with a pinaceae tree or an erez tree. So when this happened, strange thing. In 2003, November, a tree appears in the sky. It’s on a crane. They’re lowering it down to get an exact spot. They lower over the corner of Ground Zero to get it in the exact spot where the sycamore had been struck down. What was the tree? It was a conifer tree. It was a pinaceae tree. It was the exact erez tree of the scriptures, of Isaiah 9:10. And the same thing; they make a sign. They call it “The Tree of Hope”. For Israel, they’re saying, “This is our hope. We’re going to come back stronger than ever.” Call it the Tree of Hope. They have a ceremony around it. A man pronounces things over it and it celebrates human defiance, and it’s the exact harbinger. They don’t know what they’re doing. Nobody knows what they’re doing. No human hand is putting this together. I mean, the terrorists didn’t try to strike down a sycamore, nor did they try to put the matches up. But it all comes into place. It’s the replaying of the ancient drama of judgment.
SID: Now tell me about a third tree, the buttonwood tree.
JONATHAN: Okay. Here’s the principle. God says, when there’s a judgment for a nation, He says, “I will expose its foundations;” kind of like destroying a house to the foundation. What is the foundation of a nation? A foundation of a nation are what it trusts in or what it is built upon, or its powers. America’s powers, physically, are military and economic or financial. So if we’re going to see this, then we’re going to see a mystery here that in 9/11 it exposes America’s foundation. So where was America’s financial foundation? Island of Manhattan has always been the center. That’s where they had a trading post. They set up a wall to defend themselves. They put up shops. It became known as Wall Street. But how did Wall Street become the foundation of America’s rise as a superpower? It happened in the late 18th century. Twenty-four merchants from New York City gather in a secret meeting. Then from that meeting, they sign a document. That becomes the Buttonwood Association. Buttonwood Association later becomes known as the New York Stock Exchange, Wall Street. So the foundation of America’s power in economics is all linked to this word “buttonwood”. So what is this buttonwood? What does that have to do with it? Buttonwood stands for a tree, and it was a tree. Why? Because there was a tree that stood in Wall Street that they did their business, that they signed the document under. So the foundation of American power in finance is linked to this buttonwood. And many people on Wall Street know this. So what kind of tree was it? It was the sycamore, the same as the sixth harbinger that was struck down on 9/11. This was the symbol of the striking down of the financial power of America. And not only that, they make signs appear. They make this bronze statue of the fallen sycamore, of the roots, the symbol of uprootedness, and they place it, not on Ground Zero. They place it on Wall Street. So now on the place that is the foundation of America, of its power, financially, of a place that was symbolized by a sycamore tree, living, the rise of America, now is a symbol of a dead uprooted sycamore tree, struck down by 9/11, the sign, “I will expose its foundations if America does not turn back, America will lose its financial place in the world.”
SID: Progressive judgments. Wait until you hear about the vows and the people involved in these vows that line up with exactly what ancient Israel did. But it happened right here, in the U.S. of A. Don’t go away. Be right back.
Sid: My guest Ron Phillips has experienced; has tasted some of these realities especially in the angelic realm. And before we went on the air Ron Phillips we were talking about angels are there to escort believer’s home to heaven. In 1995 there was an amazing experience that occurred when a building was bombed; explain that.
Ron: People remember what happened up in Oklahoma when that terrible explosion took place it’s interesting again we’re on an April date but to me the 19th but it was a tragedy beyond belief. Bill and Kathryn Bronk, are Godly people; they were mourning the death of so many children because inside that building was a day care center and he opened his eyes and he said to his wife when he heard it happened he said, “There were angels everywhere, and they were tenderly caring for the victims; the angels were paired up and then he said that he saw angels carrying these children you know home.” And he said, “The largest concentration of angels in his vision of that building of what he saw was at the daycare area; and they were still arriving.” And he said that, “He saw hundreds of angels, but it was just a powerful vision.” And describing that by the way there are paintings out there on line that people can see of what he saw there, but it’s in line with what the Bible says in Matthew 18:10, “Take heed that you don’t despise these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven, their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven.” Now I know people have said, “Well, if they had guardian angels why did they get killed?” Well, that’s another subject, but there’s no scripture for an angel guarding children all the time from every evil that comes. We just know that that isn’t what they do, but they behold the face of the Father. In other words, they are concerned about that child and I believe that we can pray protection around our children. I believe what happened to Alfred Murray Building; this man had a vision of the angels capturing those little souls and taking them to Glory. And I really believe that especially until that child reaches the age of accountability, when they are in that young preschool age, they are watched over by angels and angels guarantee their conveyance to Glory.
Sid: Now, I’m just curious as a pastor you’ve been with many people that have died or in the process of dying, have you ever had anyone tell you, “I see the angel coming for me?”
Ron: Oh, yes, on more than one occasion, I’ve had that happen. One of the most exciting things that every happened to me. I was a young preacher and I went into a room with an old retired Methodist preacher to visit him and he was at the point of death and kept telling the nurse that there was an angel in the corner. And I have to confess even though I didn’t want to recognize it back then, that there was kind of a light over in that corner of his room. And he told me, he said, “I’m going home, so these angels have come to take me home.” And a…
Sid: And a lot of believer’s say now, I know that I’m going to heaven and I don’t care much for the process of dying, but I have a little have intrepidation and fear you couldn’t have any fear if you see the angels ready to take you home.
Ron: There is no fear in death for the believer, I’m not saying that we are ready to go , but I think that there is dying grace at that moment that we come to that place that God gives us tremendous peace. You know even Elijah was ruptured, but angels came to get him. And the heavenly beings we are not going to be alone, that’s the thing that people fear, that we are not going to be alone, the angels are there, to escort believer’s home. The most; we had a child in the hospital in the children’s hospital in the Birmingham, Alabama which is one of the best children’s hospitals in America. This child had Reye’s syndrome and it had taken its kidney’s away and its brain comatose so we had prayed for the child’s healing, but the child was not healed and so I came back to visit and the parents asked me to go in and see the child right before the child was about to pass and so I went in and I came out and I said, “
Well I visited Christy, and she didn’t respond but I said there were two medical people in there.” (ha-ha) the parents said Brother Ron, the parents said, “There was no body in there.” And I saw two beings in white and I wasn’t paying any attention to them, but the two people in white looked like medical people to me standing there. But a few minutes later she went home and I believe they were her angels who come to convey her home.
Sid: You know, you’ve had so many experiences with angels; tell me about what happened in Guatemala.
Ron: That was recent, we have a mission work in Guatemala, we have an orphanage there and other things that we do and I had gone down and really it was my first trip. We had had medical teams and so forth and I went into having youth rallies and I was preaching and teaching pastors and so we got there and there was worship going on and about an hour and a half into worship the tone began to begin to change. Just like we talked about things that are happening here and they began to sing in the Spirit and the angelic accompaniment begin and then I began to see these orbs of light just going overhead.
Sid: Has anyone taken pictures, still pictures in your congregation and seen lights in those pictures?
Ron: Yes Sir, there are some that have and we have from Brazil as well when our young people to where our young people were in Brazil they saw the orbs.
Sid: Many people actually for some reason on a photograph you can see these lights all over. Ron: That’s right and see I saw, I saw the Brazil lights before I went to Guatemala and I thought well, you know maybe it’s something was wrong with the camera lens (chuckle). But I’m going to tell you I saw them in Guatemala and…
Sid: Now on a picture, you saw them with your eyes.
Ron: I was there and it was glorious and I mean just glorious. I mean just glorious and what happens when worship really breaks through and the heavenly dimension time becomes meaningless. I mean the weariness of the way service is going long that changes and that’s when the strength really begins to flow in from the other realm and the anointing begins to flow in and the anointing begins to flow.
Sid: Do you think that is one of the reasons that the most popular churches are the opposite, the seeker sensitive rather than the ones where the glory breaks through where time has no meaning?
Ron: No meaning, and we’ve decided to have church here for people that want to stay, that they want to be at church. And the people that want to leave they are free to leave any time they want to but I’m not going to dismiss a service because its 12:00 you know. In fact we don’t dismiss service we just say folks if you need to leave fine we’ll be gathering back at 6:00 tonight.
Sid: You know, I would be afraid to leave your church, I would be afraid that I would miss something.
Ron: That’s the amazing thing that some people are so spiritually unaware that they don’t see what, they don’t see what the Holy Spirit is doing, but I’ll tell you there are people being saved here. There are people coming to Christ.
Sid: What do you see prophetically is about ready to happen in the United States?
Ron: Well, I believe with all my heart that America has a hand in the last days and that would be another week’s program, I don’t believe that we are going to just vanish like some people do and I believe as long, if we can maintain our connection with Israel and I think that it’s vitally important for our survival as a nation. And I’m a little concerned right now about our direction in terms of Israel and Jerusalem. But I believe that if we can maintain that as a nation that our survival as a nation is greatly depending upon being obedient to the word of God. And I believe George Washington, when they designed the dollar bill with the seal on the back you got the wings of an eagle and above it if you look at is a six pointed star and our first president believed that we were here to shelter the Jew. And I think that it’s part of our heritage and I think that it’s part of what we do.
Sid: And you know in your book, you talk about the principalities’ of Persia which is modern day Iran.
Ron: That’s it.
Sid: Which is really that same principality hasn’t left, it’s still around.
Ron: That’s exactly right and it’s real interesting you know the angel in the book of Daniel said, that he fought the principality of Persia, which is Iran, there is no question about it. And you know some people believe you pull down these territorial spirits, but I don’t know any of them that have been pulled down. I believe that we fight the demonic that is in our atmosphere but I believe angels, we can dispatch Michael, we can cry out to principalities that are our angels that are our angelic hosts that are mighty warriors to fight against Persia and we need to ask God to dispatch angels into that battle, it is very interesting. He said that when I leave the Prince of Greece will come. This is Philips opinion, the Prince of Greece is Western philosophy, it’s a demonic spirit over the secular America, it is what I was before I was filled with the Holy Spirit, supernatural things don’t happen, we do it all ourselves. We think through it, the Paganism, it is a western mindset, it doesn’t believe in the supernatural. We are battling those two enemies still today. We are battling the principality of Persia and Islam and in that part of the world and we are also battling the demonic intellectual the spirits over this world that is intellectual world, this Greek Philosophy approach that you think through it, figure out and if you can’t prove it is not there. That’s the two enemies America is battling today. We have a government unfortunately that’s bowed its knee to the secular humanist the spirit of Greece and we’re fighting an enemy on the foreign battlefield that’s a principality of Persia. I believe that.
Sid: And so what you just described is where the action is in the invisible world and that’s why an intercessor releases angels based on the word to fight these principalities.
Ron: That’s exactly right and we have a prayer room and a healing room here in our church that we believe is always…
Sid: Well, tell me just the types of healings you’re seeing in your healing rooms.
Ron: Everything, cancer, deafness, diabetes, all kinds of goiters…
Sid: How about some of the Messianic miracles like people blind? Are you seeing blind people get their sight?
Ron: We’ve seen one person recover their sight from blindness, yes Sir. And they weren’t totally blind, I want to be honest but there, in fact I got that call…
Sid: Woops were out of time again, it slips away.
Sid: My guest Joan hunter, has been in the healing ministry for over forty years, and she’s a second generation, the Happy Hunters, Charles and Francis Hunter, but she has, but she’s gone way beyond them, which is the way she is suppose to do it. We build on the shoulders of giants, and I asked her because the last time she was on my radio and television show, we had more testimonies of miracles than any other guest we’ve ever had. I asked her to pray for miracles for those that are listening, would you do that now Joan Hunter?
Joan: I will be more than happy to that. And what I want you to do everybody that is listening, to put your hand on wherever you hurt, now you may have a heart problem, a knee problem a shoulder problem, so as I’m saying that, if that applies to you place on that part your body and I will be laying my hand on that part of my body also. I have had so many sets of lungs given out this week in the meetings, new hearts; people that came in people that couldn’t breathe or they had pain in their heart if they walked a few feet and they’re getting new body parts, they are getting new thyroid’s and so forth and so on. And I want you to expect right now that you’re going to receive the area of healing whatever it is that you yourself are going to be completely healed and set free and you’re going to email Sid and let him know your healing that has happened this day, because of Jesus Christ, Yeshua. Father, right now in the Name of Jesus I send the Word of healing in Jesus Name into every single heart every single home, every person that is listening right now in the Name of Jesus. Father, right now in the Name of Jesus I am going to start with the head. Father in Jesus Name I curse any form of brain tumors in Jesus Name; any form of scaring in the brain like from MS or from stokes. I command all new brains; those that have been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD Father I speak a new wiring of their brain; any form of just mental memory loss; any king of memory problems Father in the Name of Jesus I speak health and wholeness. And Father right now those that have been dealing with chronic headaches, and migraines, Father in the Name of Jesus I curse any spirit of migraine, I command it to be gone in Jesus Name, in Jesus Name. And Father right now in Jesus Name I speak health and wholeness to the ears, I command hearing, to be restored; I curse any form of deafness in Jesus Name and Father there’s some people here that are dealing with infections in their ears that goes down like into their throat also into the lymph nodes. Father, I send the word of healing for all that to be open up; any form of infection to go in Jesus Name, in Jesus Name. Father in Jesus Name I speak new thyroid’s in, I speak new thyroid’s in, I command any thyroid cancer to go in Jesus Name and Father in Jesus name I speak new thyroid’s I command those goiters to those that have had chronic coughs and sore throats I command health and wholeness in Jesus Name. Father I just speak new esophagus; every bit of situations dealing with the digestive system, from going in the mouth to the exiting out, Father in Jesus Name new esophagus, thin tour muscles around the stomachs, new stomachs, upper intestines, lower intestines. Father health and wholeness, diverticulitis is commanded it to go in Jesus Name; every bit of chromes disease, all polyps are commanded to leave and any form of growths are commanded to go and all cancer is cursed throughout the body where it might be in Jesus Name. And I curse any prion in the bodies Jesus Name I speak health and wholeness to brand new hearts physically and emotional hearts in Jesus Name. I speak new lungs, I command every bit of emphysemas, COPD cancer to leave those lungs in Jesus Name any form of neck problem, all the way down to the tip of the spine I speak new vertebras to come in new disks to come in; the back to come into perfect alignment in Jesus Name. I curse any form of degenerative disk disease or osteoporosis in Jesus Name. I command to height to be restored to those bodies that have been shrunken because of osteoporosis and the lessening of the disks in the vertebrae’s. I speak height restored in Jesus Name, I command pelvic areas to come into alignment; female organs and prostrates to function properly in Jesus Name. New livers, new stomachs, new kidneys in Jesus Name; every single joint; he says that He’s going to store and I speak health and wholeness to the knees to the elbows to the wrist to the shoulders; all rotator cuffs that need to be repaired and replaced I speak them in. And I speak health and wholeness into the ankles and even into the knuckles of the toes in Jesus Name, in Jesus Name I curse any form of plantar fasciitis and all that inflammation to go Achilles Tendons to be completely healed and restored and every bit of pain whether it be physical pain or spirit of pain; it’s commanded to leave this body in Jesus Name and Father we give You the glory for healing these people from the top of their heads to soles of their feet and say thank You Jesus, thank You Jesus, thank You Jesus for healing me.
Sid: Thank You Jesus
Joan: Thank you Jesus for healing me, Father we give you the glory for this in Jesus Name. Hallelujah!
Sid: Well, the presence of God is so strong, but I’ve been thinking about a prayer that you prayed earlier this week where you commanded things like trauma and fear to go. Would you pray right now for all fear to leave even generationally, right now?
Joan: Yes, Father in the Name of Jesus I curse any form of trauma that has attacked any of these people in Jesus Name and the spirit of fear because fear can gripe us even from before we were born and I command every bit of that fear and rejection and fear of rejection to go in Jesus Name, in Jesus Name, Amen.
Sid: You know Joan, you talk about things in your two books that I’ve never seen people talk about; one in particular has to do with people that have had blood transfusions or even body part transplants; explain that.
Joan: I have had several stories let’s say of people that have received like, a new heart and like one lady and I share this in my book, “Power to Heal,” she had, she received a new heart, young lady; sweet lady and all of a sudden she got the heart and she had nightmares of being bludgeoned to death. Same person night after night, after night, after night and so the police came in and a composite sketch of who the person was. It turned out that whose heart that she had received was bludgeoned to death and because of the police the composite sketch and a few other little things you know, whatever they call that, I forget what they call it; but that it incremented the man who killed the first person. They were able to identify him as to he was the one that actually killed the woman and even though it didn’t happen to the woman who received the heart the trauma from the death of the first person got transferred into the second one. On the other side of the story there was a lady who she works at my office, a volunteer and her friend received a kidney the other day from a man who was horrifically murdered. Well the kidney was removed from the man, they prayed over it and commanded every bit of trauma to leave that kidney then at that point the kidney went into the kidney went into the woman and had no nightmares, no nothing, received a pure kidney and it normally takes about a week or so for the kidney to work. It started working immediately within less than a day, it was fully functional, no reaction, no antibodies, no nothing and it was an absolutely text book perfect transplant.
Sid: … Power to Heal” and your previous book, “Healing the Whole Man Handbook” …it is almost like going to one of your healing schools; what is your belief that would occur from someone that reads these books and does what you say?
Joan: Well, I believe that these two books work hand in hand together, and they fit perfectly together like if you were to put your two hands together and they basically put your two hands together in a motion of praying. And when you get these books; get the information in your heart, in your mind then you yourself will walk out any healing that you need. And the root causes and anything that is deep within your soul that hasn’t been dealt with before God’s going to take it all out so that we’re healed and whole, not just healed, but completely completely whole. And then in addition to that the information that is there is going to equip you to pray for your family. How awesome is that, to be able to pray for your family and see your family healed, but to be able to pray for your boss, the people that work with, where you shop, where you go to Church.
Sid: My guest in the studio is Red Hot for the Messiah, the Co Producer of It’s Supernatural Television and Messianic Radio, another Jewish Believer in Messiah, Janie DuVall. And we’ve been reminiscing about how I came to the Lord and on the worst day of my life death looked better than life. I didn’t have the nerve to take my life or I probably would have Janie, taken my life.
Janie: You’re right, you had no answers at that point; and yet you said someone gave you a little booklet of the four spiritual laws, you said you felt nothing, but you said that payer anyway, but then you went to sleep. You left it with a cliff hanger, you went to bed full of fear for your life.
Sid: Well, just before I fell asleep, and by the way, I had gone out to a Jewish book store and I had bought a mezuzah, a silver mezuzah, I remember, I put it around my neck, you know what Christians do with these vampire movies is they put a big cross around their neck. Well, I’m Jewish so I’m not going to put a cross around my neck; so I put a mezuzah around my neck and I had a Bible at this time and I had been reading a little bit of the Bible. And I put the Bible under my pillow and I called my wife, who I was separated from for a year, Joyce.
Janie: Now, what did she think when you called her out of the clear blue?
Sid: Well, I wasn’t going to tell her what was going on because, again I had nowhere to go there was no one I could tell. I figured everyone would think that I was crazy; so I wasn’t going to tell them how crazy I was. And so I called my wife; and I said, “Joyce it’s bad and as I explained my wife was…
Janie: Yeah, she was really nice to answer the phone. Ha-ha-ha.
Sid: Well, she could hear in my voice that I had a problem.
Janie: That you were desperate.
Sid: And my wife, as I explained on yesterday’s broadcast was raised Baptist and when she got to college she had atheistic professors and so she became an agnostic; she was afraid to say she was an atheist just in case; so she would call herself a Southern Baptist Agnostic and then when we got married, I insisted that she convert to Orthodox Judaism. And she would say, “Well, Judaism doesn’t mean that much to you.” But see she didn’t understand, that religion didn’t mean much to me, even though I was raised Orthodox, but being Jewish meant something to me. She couldn’t understand it because there’s a difference between being Jewish and loving, and going to the Orthodox Synagogue. There was something in me that wanted to always be Jewish and so she said “You convert,” “My family wouldn’t understand.” I said “No, that is non-negotiable you have to convert, so she converted to Orthodox Judaism, so you might say she was a Southern Baptist Agnostic Orthodox Jew.
Janie: That’s a mouthful and I couldn’t say that.
Sid: That did not know Jesus so I call her on the phone, she can tell I’m really desperate and I said, “Joyce, will you pray for me?” Now she was really confused, at this and she said, “Yes, and she hung up the phone and I hung up the phone.” And like I said, “I didn’t care whether I lived or died, life was just too difficult,” and I went to sleep. Now, she told me, after that she did not pray, but then her conscience got the better of her and she didn’t pray because she didn’t really believe in God. And so she said, “You know I promised him,” and she is a very honest person. And so she said, “I will pray for him.” And so she prayed for me, I went to bed, I didn’t care whether I lived or died, now this is my story, it’s a true story, it happened a long time ago over thirty-five years ago, but I remember it as if it happened last night. I woke up, I didn’t know what to expect, and the first thing I realized is I wasn’t afraid.
Janie: Oooh, wow.
Sid: I mean, I went to bed so afraid that I wanted to die, and I woke up so alive I wanted to live; and it was as if there was a presence in my room, of love, of liquid love.
Janie: Did you think it was God right away, did you think it was Jesus? What did you think?
Sid: I knew it was Jesus, I knew it had to do with Jesus because, oh I forgot to tell you, I said a two word prayer when I went to bed, it was the best prayer I could come up with, “Jesus help.”
Janie: That’s actually a very powerful prayer.
Sid: That was the last two words I said when I went to bed, when I woke up it was like there was, if I wanted to worry, if I wanted to be fearful, if I was forcing myself to, I could not there was so much tangible, you could feel it. The atmosphere was tangible, it was pregnant with the presence of God and I couldn’t worry about a thing. And I just had this knowing inside Janie. I absolutely knew.
Janie: Did you want to start telling people at that point? Or did you think they would think you are crazy, still?
Sid: Nay, nay I didn’t want to tell anyone anything, I was just so happy that I knew Jesus, and that He rescued me and I knew it, I absolutely, I didn’t know that much about Jesus, but I knew it had to do with that prayer, Jesus help. And then I heard the audible voice of God for the first time in my life and this is what He said, “Return to your wife and daughter.” And Janie, my marriage was bad, so I didn’t want to do that, but I was so grateful to God I would have done anything that He said and so God restored my mind, God restored my marriage, God restored my family, God restored my health, and I can tell you that today, I’ve been married over forty-three years; we just celebrated our Forty-third wedding anniversary. My daughter is now married to a man that knows the Lord, and I have three Grand-daughters; I mean I am one grateful Jewish person. And then, I wanted to tell everyone about Jesus.
Janie: But what did your parents think a nice Jewish guy, I mean, what did your parents think now, you are believing in Jesus?
Sid: Well, my Father you have to understand was born in Poland and he used to tell me the story of his Father, my Grandfather when he would walk by churches in Poland, he would spit at them. And the reason he would do that, is because the anti-Semitism from people who call themselves Christians was so ferrous over the centuries involving Jewish people my father literally could not comprehend that his son raised in a good Orthodox Jewish Synagogue, Bar Mitzvah would believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Now my mother would have accepted me, no matter what, she wasn’t thrilled over it, but she accepted me, but my Father was just terribly ashamed because I immediately started as a bold witness for the Lord. I was telling everyone about Jesus and…
Janie: And then being in the newspaper and the whole world now knowing that…
Sid: This is just isn’t just a newspaper, it was the front page of a major newspaper in Washington, DC. And there was shame, when he knew that I believed in Jesus, but when I became so outspoken, and then got on the Kathryn Kulman television show;
Janie: Now everyone knew.
Sid: I did a couple television shows with her and he was mortified, my mother accepted me and it’s very interesting; whenever my mother would get sick she would ask me to pray for her. I remember a couple of times that come to mind, one time I saw her with bags of groceries and I saw her fall down and I came running out of the house and you know, helped her up and her leg was cut, it was swollen, it was black and blue and every color of the rainbow, it looked awful. I said, “Mom, can I pray for you?” she said, “Sure.” So I put my hand on her knee and I said, “Jesus, and I was almost afraid to move my hand away Janie, because I didn’t really believe that she would be healed,
Janie: Wow.
Sid: And I moved my hand away and the leg was normal.
Janie: Here your mother just got healed and you weren’t even sure if it was going to happen, what did you think? What did she think?
Sid: Oh, I was just praising God and then every time she would get sick; and then my mother became an evangelist even though she didn’t believe in Jesus.
Janie: Did she tell my Dad?
Sid: No, she did not tell my Dad, but she would tell all of her friends and when they would get sick I would pray for them. And then I remember my Aunt Rosie; my Aunt Rosie had mental problems and she spent most of her life in a mental institution; and one day the doctor, the Jewish doctor, I might add said, that my Aunt Rosie had to have her toe amputated because she had diabetes. So my mother said, “Can we wait, I want my son to pray for her?” And the doctor said and this is a quote, “Not even Jesus Christ could save that toe.”
Janie: Oh, wow.
Sid: So the next day I prayed for Rosie and before God Janie, she never had her toe amputated.
Janie: So you were seeing miracles from the beginning.
Sid: From the very beginning, I mean and I am well there’s another role coming just before the Messiah returns and that’s why I’m so excited about the update of my testimony…