Sid Roth on May 26th, 2019

CHESTER: Thank you, Lord. You know it’s only because of the Lord any of us deserve any applause. Did you know that? And I think about where He’s brought Betsy and I from and our wounded conditions. And Betsy having a very rough start in life and my abandonment by my dad when I was age 2. It’s a wonder any of us make it, but to whatever degree we do it’s ’cause of God and we just so appreciate that. But we want to just share a little bit, name 4 ministry areas or sources of all our problems, and then we want to go into what we call a super stronghold û shame, fear, control û teach on that just a little bit and then minister to you. So how about that?  You up for that? Okay!


CHESTER: Hi, who are you? (to Betsy) Good. We’ve been having so much more fun since we got healed. It’s a whole lot better to be healed. Amen.

BETSY: Amen. [laughing]


CHESTER: Yes, thank You, Lord. So basically God through His goodness drew us into the ministry and convinced us we should go to Bible college. I was a very hard thing for Him to do because we’re so unworthy, you know? We’re tangled up in shame, fear, control. I’m abandoned, why would anyone want to be with me? I’m a full blown victim, okay? I draw victimization to me. That’s what victim’s do by the way, you know? And Betsy?

BETSY: Well, I’m just a basket case. [laughing]

CHESTER: Oh, that’s not quite as bad as me-  [joking]

BETSY: That was kind of the bottom line.

CHESTER: So how’d you get that way?

BETSY: Well I got that way because of my own abandonment and my fears and all of my struggles-

CHESTER: Yeah, anyway God convinces us through some supernatural ways to go to Bible college and during that first year of Bible college He really accelerated our healing, it just took off. And we were around people that God was healing and it was just a wonderful environment and we learned about deliverance, casting out demons, we learned about inner healing, people getting their hearts healed, we learned about, well we didn’t really learn about getting our minds renewed, people, preachers would say that from the pulpit but no one ever told us how. And then we learned a little bit about family curses, generational sins out of the 2nd commandment. One day I was sort of pondering all this and it’s like you know one of those “aha moments.” You ever had one of those? We all have. It’s like ‘OH!’ The reason people don’t stay healed after they go for inner healing or they don’t stay delivered after they get the demons cast out is ’cause we need to deal with all 4 of these areas in a related way because the first 3 give legal rights to the demons. We need to deal with the ancestral sins and curses out of the 2nd commandment, we need to get our minds renewed so we do t believe the lies anymore that the devil has convinced us of. By the way, who’s the father of lies? The devil, right. So when we believe lies, we are actually, folks, this is really awful news, we are actually in agreement with the kingdom of darkness.

BETSY: Mmmm, uh huh.

CHESTER: And it’s like we open up the door and say ‘C’mon in, demons.’ And Jesus talked about sweeping the house out, and 7 worse [demons] would come back because the house was empty. Well we want to get the house empty but then we want to fill it with the Holy Spirit. So anyway those are the 4 areas. The inner healing is important because we sin out of our hurts. When people press our tender points, anybody in here have a- sometimes it’s called a hot spot or a tender point, you know, and we don’t know why but we just erupt, and then we sin against other people out of the wounds that other people have given us as they sinned against us. So we need to deal with all 4 of these areas and get healing of it. But on top of that then lies several different kinds of things, but what we really want to talk about tonight is shame, fear, control. We call it a super stronghold, a 3-in-1 stronghold. Shall we talk about how we learned about it?

BETSY: Yeah, let’s do. So we learned about this in the ministry room as we were ministering one day. And this lady who had shame, had fear, and had control asked Chester, she said ‘Well, how does this all fit together?’ 

Sid Roth on May 17th, 2019

SID: You’re at a conference in prayer and 2008 at IHOP. You’re in a prayer there and suddenly did you … When did you realize you were in hell? Tell me what happened.

LAURIE: We were in evangelism meeting. I was worshiping in the back with my eyes closed. And then as soon as the heat came in the room, I watched, I opened my eyes. I knew something was happening. I opened my eyes, the front of the room opened like this, Sid, and hell was right there. And an arm without fingers came flying out of hell, and it grabbed ahold of my spirit and it sucked me in. Those held doors are thick, and they’re heavy, and when they slam shut, I knew exactly where I was immediately.

LAURIE: Three things were spoken over me. You are in hell eternally for unforgiveness. The worst regret you can ever imagine was right then, because there’s no way out. I knew that, there was no way out of hell.

SID: Tell our audience what you observed.

LAURIE: First, I want to say there’s no way that I will ever be guilty of exaggerating hell. There are not enough—

SID: Why would you not exaggerate?

LAURIE: It’s worse than any words that I can come up with. When I got there, just the heat, the extreme heat started causing my skin to drip off of me. The sound of the people screaming broke my eardrums and caused such a pain inside of me and I knew this was going to go on eternally. There was no way out of it. My bones, my body twisted in so many ways, breaking. I felt my back break.

SID: Did you feel pain in hell?

LAURIE: Excruciating pain. There is not one drop of relief, there’s not a drop of water, there’s not a drop of light. You can never get to another human being to share that pain. You actually become sin. You start looking like this growth. You actually lose the formation of a human being because I’m made in the image of God and that changed there. It’s horrific. It’s horrific. I never want to go back.

LAURIE: Imagine trying to live your life with no God. I was never going to touch my grand baby’s face again. Even arguing with my husband, not that that’s cool, but you were never going to get to do any of that. You were never going to get to say you were sorry, you were never going to fix anything. To always be in pain and to know that it kept ramping up and it was going to keep getting worse and worse and worse. That was never going to end. That was the thing. It wasn’t like you could reach a pinnacle.

LAURIE: In hell, it worked the same as in heaven, my full brain operated, and I knew all of Matthew 18, I knew every scripture that I’d ever read, and I’d read the whole Bible. I knew every scripture that I’ve ever read and it made complete sense and it was completely righteous that I was in hell, and I became hate. I hated and I continued to hate. There were people there. They were just like me, they believed Jesus is the Lord God, but they refused to obey Him. They say, “We love you, we love you.” But the Scriptures teach, if you love me, then obey me, and I wouldn’t. And I wouldn’t forgive.

LAURIE: It was the worst thing to know that in heaven Jesus had been so patient and He was willing to forgive me everything, everything, and I couldn’t forgive small offenses? In my life, it felt like these things had broken me. But in reality, to everything that the Lord had forgiven me of, Sid, they were small.

SID: How did you get out of hell?

LAURIE: As quickly as I went into hell, these doors opened, and something brought me out so fast. I reentered the room, I was screaming. My friend who was running the meeting, he came to the back because I was so disruptive. He started shaking me.

SID: This was at the IHOP?

LAURIE: Yeah, he’s here. My good friend,

he was there and he was shaking me, asking me, “What’s wrong, what’s wrong, what’s wrong?” And I said to him, “I’ve been to hell.” Everything changed in that minute. As transforming as it was to go to heaven and meet Jesus Christ, that transformation does not compare to the transformation of having been to hell.

SID: When we come back, I’m going to have her share the biggest lies that Christians believe that will cause them to not make heaven. Be right back.

Sid Roth on May 6th, 2019

SID: My guest has a passion. Her passion is to help you encounter experientially God. That is normal. The other is just religion. Now, your background, both parents were addicts, but your dad was the supplier, at least that’s how your mom met him. When you were born, you were born with convulsions and withdrawals because you were born an addict.

JENNY: Right.

SID: Your mom, maybe she felt a little responsible and she wanted help. She wanted to know God was real and what did she do?

JENNY: She cried out to God. She said there was a song playing and it was by The Carpenter’s and it was the song (singing) and she said she heard that song, she cried out to God, “God if you’re real, give me a sign.” She heard the song, a bird appeared at the window and right then that was her sign that God was real and she said she felt the presence of God come into the room. The withdrawals left her immediately. I was okay so she didn’t have to go through days and days and weeks of withdrawals. Immediately the withdrawals left and she gave her life to Jesus and she’s served him ever since.

SID: Her mom was strong, but her dad wasn’t a believe but about a year later, he too became a believer, but the draw, the world was too much and they got divorced when you were 13. But then high school. She was bullied. You reached out toward things that were the opposite of the way you were raised. What happened?

JENNY: I got into cutting. I began to cut my wrist just to in my mind, I thought it was relieving the pain. That opened the door to witchcraft. I watched a movie with friends. A movie that came out about witches. It was very popular and I wanted to be that. So, I got into witchcraft and we began to gather around and do spells and incantations.

JENNY: That opened up many other doors. I began to experiment with drugs and then once I opened that door to drugs, I lost all logic and I was just out there acting crazy. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got kicked out of my home. That’s when I ended up living on the streets by myself with the backpack at 17 years old. I was just grabbing for anything to fill that void and I ended up turning to lesbianism.

SID: So, then history repeats. That’s actually what happened to her. She got married. Married a drug dealer and you were on drugs.


SID: He was on drugs and then you have your birth of your daughter and your daughter has the same future you had from the viewpoint of just she’s addicted now.

JENNY: Right.

SID: Tell me what happened.

JENNY: Actually, when I got pregnant, I was still using. So, I knew I needed to get off drugs because I have a baby, but the addiction was so strong. The demonic realm and hold on my life was so strong. Logic was out the window. So, I still used. Actually before she was born I cried out to God. She wasn’t born—

SID: When you say cried out, that wasn’t just a little, oh help.


SID: It was ever fiber in your being.

JENNY: I screamed it at the top of my lungs. I said three words.

SID: I want you to say it the way-

JENNY: I said, “God help me!”

SID: When we come back, we’ll find out how God answered.


Sid Roth on April 28th, 2019

SID: John, tell me just one life experience that had quite an impact on the person and on you.

JOHN: One man I interviewed was an atheist college professor who was taking a group of students on a tour of museums in Paris. His lower duodenum ruptured. Usually within five hours, you die. There was no surgeon on call in the hospital. After nine hours he was in the most pain he’s ever been in. He passed. But what he finds is that he’s standing beside the bed. He thought when you die it’s like unplug the computer, lights out. But he found himself standing by the bedside and felt more alive than he’d ever felt before. He felt great. One minute he feels the worst he’s ever felt, then he feels great. Now, here’s what’s fascinating. You know, time and space and distance work different on the other side. He’s confused. He thinks he’s still alive and he’s trying to get his wife’s attention, but of course he can’t.

SID: Right.

JOHN: Well, a group of people are standing in the hallway of the hospital. They can’t quite see him and they say, “Howard, come with us.” He thinks they’re the hospital staff taking him to get surgery finally. He follows them and, to make a long story short, I write the full thing in “Imagine Heaven,” but they lead him to an outer darkness, just like what Jesus talked about. He starts to realize, “They’re deceiving me.” He tries to go back and they turn and they maul him. He said he was laying there and he doesn’t know if it was an eternity or how long thinking about his life. He had not been a good man. He had committed adultery on his wife, he had been self-centered, all these things, and he realized, “I deserve this.”

In that moment, a song came into his mind from when a neighbor had taken him to church as a kid. “Jesus Loves Me,” couldn’t even remember the rest of the tune. Something inside of him just cried out, “Enough! Jesus, if you’re real, save me!” A pinpoint of life begins and comes into this darkness, ends up this brilliance, brighter than the sun. Hands reach out, pick him up, and hold him as he sobs like a baby realizing, “This man I have cursed my whole life is real,” and there in the presence of angels gives Howard a life review.

One more thing. Howard, after that life review, comes back after two years, leaves his tenured college professorship, becomes a pastor. His wife’s still an atheist. She divorces him but he’s been a pastor ever since. Truly, I mean, a Damascus road.

SID: He had this life review. We’re going back to that. What is a life review?

JOHN: Yeah, this is another commonality, that in the presence of Jesus, He replays their lives for them. Now, what’s interesting is it’s like a panoramic revisiting your life, but from the perspective not only of yourself, but the people you interact with. What’s interesting, like Howard said to Jesus, “You’re skipping the most important part of my life, when I got this great award for Artist of the Year and Professor of the Year,” and Jesus said, “That’s not what’s important. I want to show you the students.” He showed him how he interacted with the students and what was going on in his mind and what was going on in the students’ hearts. He shows us how our inner actions, he shows us what Jesus said. Even when you give a little cup of cold water to a child, it matters. Every act of kindness ripples throughout humanity. But our negative things ripple throughout humanity, as well. You know, one of the things that confounds me, quite honestly, is that some come back in the presence of this God of love they never want to leave, but they don’t seek Him.

SID: That’s hard–

JOHN: But other comes back and they seek Him and they discover He’s Jesus and they give their hearts to Him. In the latter chapters of “Imagine Heaven,” I talk about rewards in Heaven because I think it is so misunderstood. You know, even that life review, that is not judgment. It’s just what Jesus said, that there’s no motive or thought or deed that won’t be laid bare. But that should not scare us, He already sees everything. It’s all laid bare right now. We think we can hide from God. We can’t hide from God. We’re only hiding from ourselves. But here’s the thing, there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, and He wants us to know that now.

SID: You know what? You have said enough. You should give your life to God right now. That’s what you should do. As of now, live for Heaven and bring Heaven on Earth.

JOHN: Absolutely.

Sid Roth on April 18th, 2019

SID: So Sandy’s mother finds a letter, confronts Sandy, “Do you believe in Jesus?” And literally packs his bags, kicks him out of the house. Sandy now goes for consolation to his girlfriend. His girlfriends says, “Oh, I’m so glad you’re here. I’m going to get filled with the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues. Come on!” What did you think?

SANDY: I thought she was a little nuts. I just wanted her to just say, “Oh, Sandy. Oh, bubby. It’s okay.” So next thing you know, we’re on our way to church and another one of these churches, and another culture shock experience. We go into the church, and we’re sitting there, and the offering plate came around. I take a $50 bill, and I throw it in the offering plate, and prayed the Martyr’s Prayer. “Oh God, take everything.” Like 50 bucks is everything, right?

SANDY: She’s seeking the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I don’t have the slightest idea what’s she’s talking about. At the end of the service, people are going forward. I figure that’s where the action, that’s where the Gentiles go. They must go up front, and something is happening up there.

Therefore, we ask for more, dear Lord.

 [foreign language]

SANDY: And so I go and I make kind of make my way up front, and this guy reaches out, and he grabs my arm, and he says to me, “Everything is going to be okay with your mother.”

SANDY: Well, I’m thinking, “Did you talk to her?” How did he possibly even know?” Then this other guy comes up to me, and he goes, “Brother, do you want the power of God in your life?”

SANDY: I figured, already cost me 50 bucks, why not? He put his hands on me, and then I just fell out. I just fell on the floor.

SID: What do you mean you fell out?

SANDY: It’s like I just kind of went, my legs went out from under me, and I’m laying on the floor. And it’s like my mind came out and said, “Get off the floor. Get off the floor.” But it was probably about an hour later before I got off the floor.

SANDY: That was the beginning of what I think because I was speaking a language that I had never studied. That was something that happened when I was there. Of course, I’ve thought, “Oh my gosh. I don’t want anybody to know what happened to me here.” But that was the beginning of something that absolutely changed my life.

SID: Okay, he marries his girlfriend and a year later he’s speaking before 10,000 people at America for Jesus, but, that’s supernatural but something even more supernatural happened.

SANDY: Well, I had started speaking at Full Gospel Business Men’s. Somebody had heard me. They’d asked me to speak at an America for Jesus rally. It was at Penn State Field House. There were just thousands and thousands of people there. I was not an accomplished speaker, but I just spoke on “Who’s going to be on the Lord’s side?”

SANDY: My father came. My mother came. My grandmother came.

SID: Why did they come?

SANDY: Because my father wanted to hear me speak before he died, and my mother and grandmother were there to support my father and to see what was going on.

SID: Because he was dying.

SANDY: He was dying. I’m on the stage, and this happened to me for the only time in my entire life. I’ve never had this happen before, and never had it happen since. It was like somebody was speaking behind me and said, “Go down. Lay hands upon your father. I’m going to heal him tonight.”

SID: Now your father had terminal cancer?

SANDY: He was only given a few months to live. He was a big guy, ex-Marine, a Carlson Raider. He was six-foot-four, big guy, wasted away. He was wasting away to nothing. Again, that voice spoke. In fact, it disrupted me. I wanted to look behind me to see if somebody was saying that. At the end of the service, I mean, there were just thousands of people that came forward to be prayed for. It was just an amazing thing. I walked down through that crowd and went up to my dad, and I said, “Dad,” I said, “Jesus wants to heal you tonight.”

SANDY: My father bowed his head, and he closed his eyes. Of course, then the service kind of went on. That was on a Saturday night. On Monday, my mother calls me. She’s just crying. I’m thinking, “Oh my gosh, I wonder if my dad died.” She’s not even able to talk. Finally, she talks, she says, “They want to keep your father another couple days. They can’t find a trace of the Hodgkin’s disease in his body.

SID: I’ll tell you what. He got something more than the baptism of the Holy Spirit, or being filled with the Holy Spirit. He starts a Bible study. I mean, you’re a young believer, you start a Bible study with 10. It’s a good Jewish number. It’s called a minyan. You start with 10, and in one year you have 2,400 people attending this study because miracles start following him. Tell me a couple miracles that were going on in this study.

SANDY: Oh, there were just some just amazing things. There were so many people that were healed from cancer, and so many people that were healed of visible things. I’ll never forget, I had this little baby in my hands, and the legs were deformed. They were going to break the legs at the knees, and put them in casts, so that the legs would be straight. They had a way of doing that. Little single mom, she didn’t have anybody. She’s crying. I’m holding the baby in my hands, and the baby starts to wiggle and move, and in front of our eyes, the legs went like this.

SANDY: It was a Catholic Bible study. I had partnered with a priest, Father Shore, it was called the Shield of Faith. It grew, it grew. We kept on outgrowing buildings, but there were miracles. Every, every meeting that we had there were miracles. There were words of knowledge. There were things that happened.

SID: Sandy, your passion isn’t as much this DISC personality, although that’s your business, but you have pioneered a test that shows, gives you revelation into how to accomplish your destiny with God. People that take this test, their gifting just increases.

SID: In fact, you told me you were on a board of Teen Challenge, and you have all these young kids that are recovering from drug addiction, et cetera, take this test. It’s life changing for them. But then people my age take this test, and it’s life changing for them. Be right back.