Sid: If you have blockage in your heart in the natural or the supernatural I believe that you know what when the blockage in the spirit realm is removed the healing will flow. My guest John McTernan had a broken heart, and then in studying the scriptures he found out that this was one of the major calls of Jesus to heal the brokenhearted. And there are people listening to me right now; you’ve been wounded. Probably you’ve been from a broken family. You’ve been from a father and mother that died at an early age. You’ve been in a house where they stayed together but the trauma may have been worse than if they had separated. And most believers today have a broken heart, but Jesus knew it and that’s why He said “Well that’s our ministry.” Well, John McTernan had a broken heart; he had a blockage but now that this blockage has been removed when he speaks people with broken hearts they get supernaturally healed. But the thing that is so amazing to me John is that they’re not only getting the healing in the spirit realm and it releases a flood of the supernatural gifts of God they’re getting healings in the physical realm; tell me a few.
John: Well you’re absolutely right Sid and I believe that a lot of the problems that people are facing, health issues that they are facing, is connected to a broken heart. And the problems with a broken heart are manifesting in their body. And oh yes, there has been wonderful testimonies the one that comes to mind is the woman that I prayed for that had serious rejection in her life. She had been rejected at a very young age all her life rejection, two husbands. But what really stood out with the husbands like they divorced her on Friday and remarried on Monday which crushed her heart. She had this crushed heart and with rejection basically. Then she was suffering for years I think 5 or 6 years with ulcerated colitis. She was anemic from the ulcers, the bleeding, lost all sorts of weight. The doctors were saying that this was final stage of it. And Sid she was only in her early 40’s. So a friend of hers knew me and we prayed and the first time we prayed it was a great breakthrough but not a complete and we prayed again. I shared with her Romans 8:15 which I had mentioned on a previous show. I told her about…
Sid: Share that again.
John: Yeah Romans 8:15 says “For you have not received” now notice this “The spirit of bondage again to fear.” See there is a spirit; there could be a spirit of bondage to fear. But the remedy for that is when you receive the Spirit of adoption whereby we cried “Abba Father.” So I shared with her “God accepts you, God does not reject you.” And we had to pray and pray for this spirit of rejection was so strong in her. Then finally she broke through and she began to cry out “Yes, God is my Daddy, He accepts me.” And then we prayed for healing in her intestines because this was critical the condition that she was in. And she said that she felt like fire, this fire in her intestines and God instantly healed her.
Sid: And you know what comes to me as you’re sharing this John is what is the opposite of faith? Fear! I believe that there are many people that have fear trapped inside of them and when they get rid of that spirit of fear; they then can walk in the promises of God.
John: Absolutely, and Sid I want to make this clear that this woman I prayed for loved the Lord. I checked her salvation before we prayed and she loved the Lord; she had been walking with the Lord, but yet her heart had been broken and the spirit of fear and rejection had gripped her. And the remedy was asking the Lord to heal her broken heart, which He did, and then having her rest in God as her Abba, as Daddy. And then the flow, God’s flow, began to go through her life and then it came this miraculous healing. I want to add to this that she was under the doctor’s care and she told the doctor what happened. And he said “Well, let’s see what happens.” I remember vividly the end of September and that was a couple of weeks. So she went back in a couple of weeks and he examined her and there was absolutely no symptoms of this ulcerated colitis. And he actually said to her “There is no explanation for this and you’re rewriting the medical books.
Sid: I’ll tell you what excites me… Oi vey that came out so fast I almost missed it. The doctor said “You’re rewriting the medical book?!”
Sid: I love it. (Laughing) The thing I was excited about you, I talked to you a few weeks back and you said you were on your way to a mental institution to pray for someone’s heart to be healed. What happened?
John: Well, Sid again this was one of the manifestations. Again, I like this because I see it as living proof of the resurrection of Jesus Christ when things like this happen. Yeah a woman a very good friend of mine sister had been institutionalized several times for severe depression, severe. And he asked me if I would come; he had given up hope, the whole family had given up hope on her and they were thinking about that she was going to be permanently institutionalized. She could not function on her own; so we went in there and he also told me that the doctors said that “It was the worst case of depression that he had ever seen.” That was what the doctor said. So when I went into minister to her if it would be possible in the natural realm to see into the spiritual realm that’s what I did Sid. Because you could see depression on her; I can’t describe it it was… it’s hard to describe something natural that was spiritual. But I walked in and in and she was so depressed that it was manifesting from her physically. And we talked about… and she claimed to be a believer; and we talked about this and she gave me testimony of Jesus Christ as her Savior and could not be free of this depression. She said that “It would just not leave her.” So I shared with her Luke 4:18 and we went to the brokenhearted, and we talked the broken heart. And what happened Sid when she was young, when she was very young she had a baby out of wedlock that died and it broke her heart and it caused all sorts of family problems. And she had been living with that since she was 16 years old. And that was the source of all of this. And there was things compounding it but the foundation of her condition was this broken heart with the loss of the baby and how the family reacted to her being pregnant out of wedlock. Well, we prayed for forgiveness, for family forgiveness and she somehow thought that the loss of the baby was her fault. And we asked that she would forgive herself for that. And that she needed forgiveness towards God, and when those 3 forgivenesses came and we prayed that the Lord would heal her broken heart Sid her family is just, it’s almost like it’s unbelievable to them. They said “This is a different sister, this is not the sister that I’ve known all my life. That’s what they told me that she is completely different. She is a completely different woman. The last time I went to see her you could actually see her now glowing with the Holy Spirit. The first time I went there if you could see depression I saw it, I mean the first time. The last time I went there her countenance, her face, her eyes were this glow on her from the power of the Holy Spirit radiating through her now rather than being in bondage to the spirit of bondage.
Sid: Now John the thing that excites me so much as you’re sharing the teaching on this and the light bulbs go off on people’s spirits and in their mind. But as you share this when you speak in front of groups rattle off a few things that people have been healed or have said to you because they heard your teaching.
John: Well yeah, Sid there’s so many of them now. One of them that was really outstanding was a woman that was crippled. When she was 10 years old she was sexually molested, it was a hard thing for her to share with me, but she did. Her heart was all tore apart, I mean inside and I started to pray for her. First of all she forgave the person that did it that’s so important, forgiveness. And we actually had to ask God’s grace in her life for the forgiveness, but when I began to pray for the healing of her heart and then we prayed for the deliverance from fear. Because she was in fear. I remember saying to her; the Lord stopped me, I told her not fear, it’s in terror, I said “You are in terror, and she says “Yes, yes I am, yes!” And we prayed for the release of the terror and she jumped up out her chair and she started to dance in front of me. And she said, “It left, it left me; it’s gone, that terrible weight on me is gone!” And Sid here’s a woman that came in crippled and she’s dancing in front of me in the freedom of the Lord.
Sid: John, if you did not have your heart healed… did you see miracles like this when you spoke before your heart was healed?
John: No, no Sid, no.
Sid: That’s what I believe many of us that are listening right now. As we go step by step through your notes and through your teaching I believe that… and by the way then you get into the blessings of Abraham that we’re to tap into it’s amazing teaching…
SID: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, I have traced this, and it’s amazing, my guest is responsible for praying for someone that brought the move of the Holy Spirit for the three greatest revivals in modern day history, and then the fire spread to another church in England, and brought the fire to England. That’s his job. That’s his job description. He is a fire starter and I believe that we are about ready to have a fire jump from him right on you. And it’s nice that he’s a fire starter. But he wants you to be a fire starter. Now my guest Rodney Howard-Browne. Rodney, I think it’s such a wonderful heritage you have. I mean, at five, you’re born again, at eight you’re filled with the Holy Spirit. Tell me when you were a young boy you came home one day and you saw your mother laughing in the Spirit. Tell me what you observed.
RODNEY: Well I walked in the living room and Mom was sitting there and just beside herself laughing uncontrollably. And I said to my father, I said to my dad, I said, “What’s happening to Mom?” He said, “Jesus is touching her.” Now what people don’t know was that Mom had fallen and broken her arm in three different places, very bad break, and God had miraculously healed her, and it was actually that afternoon that she had been healed. Well she ended up taking the cast off of her arm after four days. But she was being touched by the power of God in her home, and I saw that as a young boy.
SID: What a heritage to have. I mean, I wasn’t even sure there was a God when I was young boy. You are so blessed, Rodney. But then tragedy hit your home. In 1978, your older brother who you respected, you looked up to, he developed leukemia. What happened?
RODNEY: Well he died suddenly. It was chemically induced. He was, the place he was working at. God had called him to ministry. He was 14 years older than I was and so suddenly he dies from this leukemia, which really affected the whole family. You can understand. I mean, we never expected him to die. But I remember standing at his deathbed. I was only 17 at the time and I was really angry, you know. I was not mad at God. I was mad at the devil and I remember saying this at that moment, I said, “Devil, you’ll rue the day that you touched my family.” And I didn’t know what I was saying. I said, “People are gonna laugh at you around the world.”
SID: Now let me explain something to those that have never seen Rodney minister. He is known for an anointing that causes people to laugh. And I have to tell you the funniest story I know about Rodney. I had an uncle that was a professional comedian, Jewish like myself. He was a non-believer, and I decided what would a professional comedian think of seeing Rodney speak and people laughing uncontrollably? Would that be an interesting experiment? So I sent it to Uncle Jay. He watches it. He calls me on the phone. Angry. Cursing. He said, “Sid, that man is not funny. He’s getting more laughs than I’m getting.” You know, it’s so funny, it sounds like I’m making it up, but I’m not. I mean, he couldn’t understand it. So Rodney, when your brother died, you got angry at the devil and you got more serious at pursuing God than you’ve ever been in your life. What happened the next year?
RODNEY: From August of ’78 until July of ’79 was a time of great hunger pressing into to God. You know, I knew God had called me to the ministry and I knew that if I was going to into ministry I had to have the fire of God. And in Luke, chapter 3, verse 16, John even said, “I baptize with water but there’s one coming after me who will baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.” So I knew about the Holy Ghost, but I wanted this fire. And so that’s what I was crying out for. Even though I was already baptized, I already spoke with other tongues and already had several gifts of the spirit, I wanted the end fire, because I had a lot of people that were in the ministry, they spoke in tongues. But I didn’t see the end fire part. It’s like the prophet of [unintelligible], it’s like a fire shot up in my bones. So for me, it came to a crossroads in July of 1979, in a prayer meeting with about 18 people present, young people, most of them, all Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, Dutch Reform, Pentecostal. And I was crying out and I said, “Lord, I want your fire.” And I was shouting at the top of my voice, and I did this for about 20 minutes, and I actually, my voice starting going. I mean, when you shout, somebody said, we don’t have to shout, God’s not deaf. He’s not deaf, but he’s not nervous either. I was desperate. When you are desperate, you cry out. And I was crying out, I said, “Lord, either you come down and touch me or I’m coming up there to touch you.” And I meant it. I’ve got to have your touch. And it was like suddenly somebody poured like it was warm oil or honey, or however you want to describe it. I sometimes say like gasoline and then took a match, I mean just set me on fire. From the top of my head to my feet. It was like electricity was running through me. But it wasn’t, if you’ve had pins and needles, it’s like that, but not pins and needles. Pins and needles is very uncomfortable. This was glorious.
SID: You described it like honey.
RODNEY: Yeah. But it was like a river was flowing out of me. I was laughing, I was crying, and I was speaking in tongues all at the same time. I was beside myself.
SID: Now wait until you find out what happened to these evangelicals that think he’s a little meshuggah. That’s Hebrew for a little crazy. Guess what happens to these young kids. We’ll be right back.
Sid: Now when you go to a doctor and whatever your problem is it seems they’ll say “It’s stress” or “It’s fear related.” And they’ll give you anti-anxiety drugs; they’ll give you all… it’s younger and younger and younger. My guest is Jonathan Bernis and we’re featuring his brand new coffee table book “Confessing the Hebrew Scriptures, The Lord is Peace.” And the word peace in shalom as we found out it means completeness in every promise of God. It’s like a magnet to draw the blessings of God to you. You will be able to almost instantly. And maybe and I don’t even need the word almost; there’s a CD that comes with it. You hear the promises of God about completeness in your life. And you hear it in Hebrew by a native speaking Israeli, then you read it in a transliteration fashion which allows you to instantly read and pronounce that Hebrew. And then you hear it in English; and then you can meditate on these promises. Jonathan, there’s a better way to combat anxiety and stress and worry and fear than medicines.
Jonathan: That’s right Sid; a doctor will prescribe anti-depressants or sedatives. We don’t need any of that because there is a prescription in the Word of God. Against anxiety, against tension; against stress, against depression and it’s confessing the word of God. We all know the scripture where Jesus says “Come unto me all you who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon me and learn of Me for I am gentle and humble and you will find rest for your souls.” But we don’t find rest unless we get that truth into our spirit man. And the way that we do that according to Roman’s 10:17. “Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Is to confess the scripture; to hear it day in and day out. And I will challenge anyone listening to confess that scripture in front of the mirror 20 times a day and watch what happens. Your anxiety begins to go to fade. The tension begins to disappear; the depression will lift; the stress will begin to come off of you it’s because the Word of God is alive Sid. But we have to activate it through hearing it and getting it into our spirits. And that’s why I’ve been doing these books because I believe in the power of confessing the word of God. Sid it works.
Sid: I have to tell you I interviewed recently Perry Stone and he told me the last prophetic word that his dad had before he went to heaven was that there are demons released on planet earth. Where people that are good believers will start getting thoughts of sexual sin and just things that they wouldn’t even want to have inside of them? And they wonder “Where is this coming from?” The prophesy was, only those that are speaking in supernatural languages will have a defense against this. And so if you do those two keys that Jonathan has been speaking about all week and that is speak in supernatural languages and confess God’s word. Meditate on God’s Word and I can’t explain this but there are frequencies in words and when you speak God’s Word in Hebrew you’re going into a heavenly frequencies. Musicians understand this; psalmists understand this; and God understands this. So when you put the 3 together and you confess God’s Word and meditate on God’s Word. This is a promise from God. “No weapon formed against you will prosper.” Not one, not one weapon formed against you will prosper. And as a matter of fact a lot of people see what’s going on Jonathan with the economy; with politics; with terrorism, with the natural disasters and they’re wondering what in the world is going on. But I look at it as the greatest time to be able to be a light in a dark world in the history of planet earth.
Jonathan: I agree with that Sid; you know what as you’re talking about the word that Perry’s father had it reminds me of the book of Jude. That’s the exact picture of the book of Jude. People are being overcome with sensuality; people are being overcome with wickedness; they’re caught up in the material plane. They’re working out things with their mind and they’re under this attack of the enemy. Then Jude exhorts us but you beloved you can build up your most holy faith by praying in the Holy Spirit, praying in other tongues. And when you do that you’re building faith up; you’re building an immunity against the works of the evil one in our lives and you’re released into a supernatural realm where you have ears to hear and eyes to see what the spirit of God is saying. And confessing the word of God works the same way. “Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.”
Sid: Tell me what’s in your inner most being you feel where we are prophetically in end-times.
Jonathan: Well, I’m not going to set any dates because everyone….
Sid: You don’t want to be stoned I know why, but go ahead. (Laughing)
Jonathan: Israel has been restored as a nation; Jerusalem is back under the hands of the Jewish people. The blindness is coming off the eyes of the Jewish people in greater numbers than ever before. And Sid I have the privilege of seeing something that most people don’t see and that is I’m traveling to places like Zimbabwe; Ethiopia; Manipur and Mizoram, India. I am encountering ancient Jewish tribes that are likely connected to the lost tribes of Israel and they’re receiving the gospel. Many of them are now going back to Israel; the Benei nemasha the children of Menasha in Manipur, India. We’ve been working with for years and have been wide open for the gospel.
Sid: Don’t the rabbi’s believe that the lost tribes have to be restored before the Messiah comes?
Jonathan: Absolutely, the scriptures are filled with prophecies that in the last days God would re-gather the remnant of Israel. Isaiah 11 is one of the greatest He says that “He’ll re-gather the outcasts of Israel. And it’s directly connected to the return of Jesus to this earth. We’re living in a prophetic time Sid. The last of the last days I’m sure of that.
Sid: Well, I’ll tell you what all this week Jonathan the presence of the God has been so strong within me and upon me. And I believe that’s it’s because of this tool that the Holy Spirit directed you to create; it’s a beautiful coffee table book hard back obviously. And the art work is so magnificent in this and you have the Hebrew scriptures. It’s written in Hebrew and then it’s transliterated and so anyone can instantly read the Hebrew. They sound like a native born Israeli and just in case they don’t you have a CD where a native born Israeli is reading this with beautiful music. Then you have the promises in English. This one is called “The Lord is Peace.” Which brings everything into focus to medicate on; because the word peace means completeness. In other words, complete in your spirit, in your soul and in your body. And you have the promises; you mediate on God’s word day and night. And what did God tell Joshua?
Jonathan: He told Joshua to mediate, to confess the word of God, to keep it in his mouth and he would be successful in everything that he did. And that is true today for everyone listening.
Sid: I believe that we’re coming into a strategic time in history where it’s not going to be a few superstars; it’s going to be the Super Star working through you. I believe that the average layman will be just like the average layman in the first church. And you know that the least believer in the Messiah walked in the supernatural. And that’s the way that it’s always supposed to be; but somehow it got perverted. But just before the Messiah returns we’re going to have that glorious One New Man Congregation where everyone is going to go out into the highways and byways and move in such extraordinary prophecy and miracles and words of knowledge and words of wisdom. People will just say “Ah, God has just invaded my midst; what should I do to be saved?” And that’s the norm not the exception and may that day come quickly. I have a man in my studio his name is Jeff Burke; he’s from Cartersville, Georgia. Jeff moves in such extraordinary signs and wonders that I fancy myself if you will as your mentor of the supernatural. So I want to learn something from Jeff and I want you to learn something from Jeff. Now Jeff at age 21 you were pasturing a Baptist Church; your father was a Baptist Pastor. You were not Spirit Filled at all but you heard a voice from God that told you to go into ministry; tell me about that.
Jeff: We had a very good friend in our family named Milton Rexroad in Pine Mountain, Georgia. When he went home to be with the Lord we’d gone to his funeral, and our family loved him very much. And I was standing there I felt like I heard a voice say and the voice said “I’ve called one home but you’re to be in his stead; so I’m calling you and I’m calling you into the ministry.” And of course at the time I didn’t… the only thing that I knew to do was walk down the aisle and say “I want to be a preacher.” (Laughing)
Sid: And I’m sure your father was very grateful when you said that. Your father, although he wasn’t Spirit-Filled he would move in words of wisdom and words of knowledge. Do you remember one time that happened and tell me about it?
Jeff: Yes, I remember on occasion he was really seeking the Lord and knew that there was more than what he’d been experiencing and so he felt like God had spoken to him one day and just he heard… He spoke to a lady about he said “Look, God’s going to heal you from that time that the kids walked around you saying “You’re an ugly horse; an ugly horse.”
Sid: Now that takes courage to even say that to a person. You’re dad must have really been kind of courageous to do this.
Sid: I mean I can’t… it’s difficult to see me walking to a woman and saying “Remember the time kids circled around you and said “You’re an ugly horse.” But go ahead.
Jeff: So he spoke that to her; and amazing thing about it she was a very attractive beautiful lady. And so her husband even came to my dad, and said “Look she’s very attractive how could anybody ever say that?” And then she responded and said “No, she said, “When I was about 10 years old she said many people said I had the features of a horse and the kids were dancing around me just saying “You ugly horse; you ugly horse.” and so what it did it just set her free and emotionally was a blessing for her to be able to go on and have some confidence in some things.
Sid: And the amazing this is this is even before as you said you father was Spirit-Filled. But some things happened along the way that were not according to the script of the Baptist church.
Sid: You told me about a time that you were singing the song “Victory in Jesus” and you’ve had a whole string of thoughts… just all your frustration came out; tell me about that.
Jeff: Well, as I was singing that song I began to realize I was going “Well, what victory do we really have?” And so I went to my father and I said “Daddy, I want to ask you a question.” I said “We stand every Sunday and then we’ll speak and we’ll preach and we’ll teach and then we’ll say ‘We have victory in Jesus.’ ” But then I said “We turn around and say even though we have victory in Jesus but God don’t do anything more.” And then we turn around and say “But Satan still does stuff,” I said “I really don’t understand the victory in that; how can that be victory if God doesn’t do anything but Satan still does?” I said “I just don’t understand how that’s victory.” So he responded to me and he said “Well son there are people and they seem to get their prayers answered better than we do and some are called Pentecostal, Spirit-Filled, charismatic.” And he said “They really do get their prayers answered but you know of course they speak in tongues so that’s from the devil so I don’t see how that’s from God.” And that’s just the way we were taught and so I began seeking. And even other things and we had already began to see about the reality of demonic things. And even some of our own literature that was being given to us that there was a reality of manifestations of demonic things. And so I began to study and as I began to study our literature it became… it just wasn’t satisfying to me. Because it would go to the point but I still couldn’t see any of the victory in it. And they talked about people that did deliverance did these things. And I began to seek other things; I really began to go and study things other than Christian literature which really began to get me in some trouble. And I looked at something and I looked at something in the library called the 5th Book of Moses.
Sid: Well, you know it says in the Bible a little bit of leaven will leaven the whole loaf. Now the leaven in many instances represents sin, but whatever you take in you get more than you bargained for. If you take something good in you get more than you bargain for of good. If you take something bad in and I’m so concerned about all of the books and movies and television programs that are out now that have this leaven of New Age. And Mishpochah his father said “Let’s not have anything to do with the Charismatic’s because they speak in tongues.” And Jeff had that door closed to him and the only supernatural door that was available was the demonic; that’s pretty much what happened to you.
Jeff: Yes, actually in my own family study I found that I had an Aunt that was doing Tarot Card reading. Found another Aunt that in the south we called “Have born with a veil over her face.” And my grand daddy did something called “Speaking Fire.” And so there was supernatural things happening in our family but they all came from something other than the Lord as I began to study.
Sid: But as you got deeper into these things; I guess you must have left the ministry because you got very successful in business.
Jeff: Yes, this is under the blood of Jesus but praise the Lord I went out one day and I looked up at the heavens and said “God I’ve always believed that you Your a sovereign God but You’ll have to prove it to me because I’m going to go raise something other than heaven.” And actually began to use the incantations, the chants, the prayers that I learned that was not of God. And began to use it to begin to get promotions. And I went into secular work and I began to get those promotions. And even reached a place and a time where I was one place above getting as high as I could go in the company; and I seemed to have tremendous favor there. At the same time drugs were getting a hold of me; I was… because of a stress of a million dollar business I was smoking about 4 packs of cigarettes a day.
Sid: So you were very successful? Did you attribute your involvement in witchcraft to your success? Did you correlate the two?
Jeff: I would like to say that I understood more than I did; but to me it just seemed to be a coincidence of both of them. But I’m going as long as it’s working I’ll keep trying this. And it was very difficult; my health began to go down.
Sid: That devil doesn’t play fair does he?
Jeff: He sure doesn’t.
Sid: But there was something else going on simultaneous with your parents.
Jeff: Yes, praise the Lord they had been… they’d got to seeking; my dad really got to seeking himself. And when he did he came to a place; had actually reached his goal of pasturing the highest church that he could pasture. And wound up saying that… I don’t know if I can say this on radio or not but in the worst hell that he could be in. And so he left; went to a little cabin he and my mom just began to pray. Told the Lord “I’ll go though whatever door you open up.” And so he wound up pasturing in a small country church; but being very content in seeking after God. And during that time he invited a man that had been the pastor of the church that had been his friend. And when he did that the man had been filled with the Holy Spirit.
Sid: Oh, hold that thought we’ll pick up here tomorrow Mishpochah.
Sid: My guest David Herzog is red hot for the Messiah. I mean this is a man that God has taught step by step how to move in the glory of God. And when the tangible glory of God shows up everything speeds up in reference to the promises of God’s word. And so I was kind of surprised when he came out with a book; I mean in such a comprehensive book. One book that has every area of health covered. It’s called “Jump Start Your Way to Healthy Living.” David for those that perhaps tuning in for the first time, why does someone that understands the miraculous… you see people bald get their hair back instantly in the glory; you see people lose weight. I know I went to one of your meetings right before me I saw people that lost weight right before me. I saw a woman’s hair change from white to brown; I mean why are you fooling around with nutrition?
David: (Laughing) Because I see a lot of people that get healed in meetings but then they don’t keep their healing because they go back to their normal lifestyle. So the Lord really led me to say you know you need to tell people not just how to get healed but how to stay healthy. Otherwise they’re going to keep coming; I’ll never be out of a job but I’d rather be out of a job and people don’t come for healing anymore because they stay healed. That’d be the best.
Sid: And that’s a problem; let me add this is a personal question but maybe someone else is thinking this question. I don’t get out in the sun much unlike you I know you love being outside and I saw the mountain you like to climb in Sedona, Arizona. But so I don’t get out much; one reason I don’t get out much is I don’t want to deal with skin cancer, and the other is that I take vitamin D capsule. What would you suggest for someone like myself?
David: Yeah, you don’t want to overdo the sun but if you do like 20 minutes a day, 20 minutes a day on as much of your body as possible that’s the best form of vitamin D your body naturally can deal with that. Most of the civilizations around the world for the last 6,000 years sunlight… people out in the sun. Now for the last 100 years modern age people are not in the sun and it’s affecting them in many ways. It’s good to take a supplement though if you’re not in the sun and that’s find but if you can get out even 20 minutes a day I think you’ll notice even greater metabolism acceleration; it’s greater for your skin. Now if you eat healthy and you start cleaning out your diet then I noticed too there is a lot less cases of skin cancer. What happens is that people don’t eat healthy; oils in your skin get locked and then they create cancer. So a lot of people that have healthier diets like in these 3rd world countries they’re out in the sun all day and you hardly hear of any skin cancers.
Sid: Another subject he deals with even your appearance based on things that God’s put on this earth. Also you talk about age reversal; now I know everyone listening wants to know about that. Personally I believe as I stand in the glory every day I’m getting age reversal but you know what it’s just as supernatural knowing that the foods that God has put in this earth to accomplish that; tell me about it.
David: Oh yeah, for age reversal it’s really amazing because in the Bible you see people that lived 120 or 500 years. And even at their death they were still strong and healthy it was their time to go. Age reversal there’s like different hormones in your body that deal with age reversal. Like some people get Alzheimer’s the brain stops functioning and that’s it acetylcholine, it’s one of the hormones that when you start losing that your brain starts to dry up. So there’s natural things you can do to speed that up, your acetylcholine levels, so that you don’t get Alzheimer’s, you don’t get dementia so there’s different… now you said about skin too. Like different foods that you can eat to make you look a lot younger; cucumbers, celery, are one of the healthiest things for your skin. It actually goes and cleans the cells inside your skin. So you kind of asked me 2 questions so age reversal and then looking younger and healthier. There is also like serotonin levels in your body, that’s what helps you get more sleep. When you lose serotonin in your body, that’s the thing that makes you sleep deep and long you start aging faster.
Sid: So what kind of food has serotonin in it?
David: Black pepper, cayenne pepper helps with it, thyme, and turmeric, basil, peppermint, nutmeg and sage. I have a whole list in my book of these things that actually helps to reduce it. Like for instance, sage helps you with serotonin levels and reduced fear, paranoia, and delusions, it’s been known to do that by doctors.
Sid: What about you talk about tea as an important drink.
David: Yeah for calming yourself chamomile tea is one of the best. Chamomile has a calming kind of property to it that a lot of people realize they take…that’s why an hour before you sleep at night I take a chamomile tea and it calms you; it a calming tea it’s wonderful.
Sid: And what about green tea, what’s green tea do for you?
David: Oh, green tea yeah that’s something that give you… it’s a little bit of a stimulant not like coffee but it helps you lose weight, it age reverses your body. It has amazing properties that go inside your body. Like the Japanese are really big on green tea a lot of the Asian countries; Asians look pretty young, they age a lot better than the western world and they happen to drink a lot of green tea.
Sid: Now you talk about people that live long and the people that live the longest live in Okinawa, Japan. What are they doing? What has been their diet that’s making them live so long?
David: Yeah, Okinawa first of all they don’t eat like the rest of the Japanese; they eat way less white rice. White pasta, white rice all of that carbs isn’t good for your body it slows down your anti-aging. They’re also outdoors a lot more; there are people over 100 years old still going to the store, exercising, swimming. They also have a lot of coral calcium in their diet. So there’s a combination of stress-free healthier living, eating healthier foods and not eating so much carbs and rice. So that combination is causing them to live longer and be productive. They’re actually not only living to 120 they’re actually productive at that age too.
Sid: Now what about something we hear talked about a lot. When I was younger we didn’t even know the word, and that is gluten.
David: Oh yeah, gluten…a lot of people are I think my daughter is that way as well, she can’t have gluten she has a reaction to it. Because the modern food that we eat today is so tainted it’s not the original food God created, the glutens, the wheats all those things start causing huge problems in people’s bodies. And so the food chain especially in America is getting worse and worse so that people can’t even digest gluten. So it’s very, very important to get stuff and food that’s not full of glutens. Go back to a raw natural healthy eating lifestyle and a lot of sicknesses will be healed. I think you mentioned to me that you saw a show the other night about gluten and the different…
Sid: Oh they’re proving that there’s a connection between eating a lot of gluten and Alzheimer’s now.
David: Oh I totally believe it. It blocks up your system, anything that blocks up your system doesn’t come out quickly stays in there and causes a lot of trouble.
Sid: David in your book you speak a lot about thinking and thoughts. How does it affect your life?
David: Oh, big time you know thoughts can actually shift things in your body. If you start to think about someone that hurt you or someone that you’re angry about even though you might have forgiven them but you start to think about it or mediate on it.
Sid: Well, I kind of question that you’ve really forgiven them if you keep thinking about it. But go ahead.
David: Exactly, what happens the toxins in your body actually goes into a toxic state just by thinking about someone that rejected you or hurt you or just rehashing it recreates as if it’s happening in your emotions immediately starts to feel it. And your body actually starts to shut down, toxins and poisons go in your bloodstream. And that’s why the Bible says you know before you sleep at night don’t keep your anger because it actually affects your body and you start to get sick. Your immune system shuts down and it’s really bad. Let’s say the boss says “I want to talk to you in my office please after work.” Ah, you start thinking the worse, you start panicking you get stress, you’re exhausted, you’re worried and then you find out that you were getting a raise. But because you feared the worst your body went into a mode of fear, panic, and toxins go into your body.
Sid: So you’re saying as you say in your book “As a man thinks in his heart, so is he.”
David: Exactly, you know that scientists have discovered that when you think about something on a high enough level you can actually create the subatomic particle of that which you are thinking about.
Sid: That’s pretty way out there. (Laughing) But actually I have a quote from you on that from your book. And what you said is “As we start to see the future in reality we’re actually tapping into the future at the moment that we start seeing it.” What do you mean by that?
David: Yeah, well the Bible says “The substance of things hoped for.” So you start us out thinking about something that you are hoping for that God; you know that it’s from God and you have faith you actually start thinking about it you actually have a substance of that future. For instance we had a meeting at Topeka, Kansas and I said “Someone here hair is turning black.” And a man in his 70’s came up and the front of his hair had turned from while to black; the back was still white. Now I told the 700 people I said “Now stare at the back of his head but I want you to see it by faith that the back now was also turned black.” So we didn’t pray, we didn’t declare we all stared at the back of his head 700 people and put him on the stage in front of everybody his hair turned black. So as a man thinks; so is he. Jesus says “He’ll do above what you can ask for or think.” So if you can ask Lord “Thank you for healing this person in Jesus Name.” And they get healed you can actually think it also and God can answer your thoughts as a prayer.
Sid: Even it works in reverse as you were explaining; if you think about negative things when you’re trying to go to sleep.
David: Yeah, it actually drain your body because you’re thinking about it and your emotions get connected and your body gets connected to that negative. And it’s like a downward spiral, you get drained, and pretty soon you’re foggy, you’re low. It affects your emotions, your body your hormones everything gets affected just by thinking about something sad, or angry or rejection thought your whole body starts to feel it it’s really, really bad.
Sid: That’s why I love the special we have for the refrigerator; it’s part of the “Power and the Glory Package.” And the magnet has points that you’ve come up with on living stress-free in the glory as just reminders every day.