Sid: Sid Roth back with Apostle Guillermo, tell me about when you teach this course…let’s get specific tell me about the blind woman that was healed.
Guillermo: You know Sid I got so many cases but this is one of the cases where I was teaching on transformation of the heart and specifically I was talking about unforgiveness and offenses. The moment she heard the message and she forgave she made a decision to forgive because it said unforgiveness is a decision you can’t keep it in your heart because it’s a poison. And the moment she forgave she completely healed in other words she was healed of blindness. But I can tell you many cases besides that the moment the people forgave. I’ve seen I saw a woman that came into… I was ministering at the end of the service I was preaching on it and I was preaching and me and the people and this person made a decision she got arthritis her finger was twisted, her hands and fingers and the moment she heard the teaching she made a decision I’m going to forgive that precise moment she was completely healed. And I could tell you 100’s of cases in many areas blindness, deafness, and many areas when the heart changed everything outside changes.
Sid: Let me ask you something about forgiveness someone said to me recently “Forgiveness is a process.” Would you agree or disagree with that?
Guillermo: A process?
Guillermo: I don’t think it’s a process I think it’s a decision they can be healed the moment that people decided to make a decision to a…
Sid: But what about the feelings? In other words you make a decision to forgive someone but your feelings you’re still upset over them.
Guillermo: No because if you still remember and hurt you; this is what I tell the people and teach in my book. I say “If you still remember what they did to you and you hurt you have not forgiven. And does it take time to do that? No, because if it takes time this is what psychologists and psychiatrists teach “Well every hurt is going to go off with a time.” And time doesn’t heal hurts. The presence, the word, the blood, the power heals the hurts of the wounded heart. So it won’t take long, the moment we make a decision to forgive with all of the heart God that is the moment we become completely healed and delivered.
Sid: You know Guillermo every chapter of your brand new book “Supernatural Transformation” and the 2 CD’s on the broken heart surrendered to God it’s revelation, it’s life changing, but let’s just, and it’s difficult, but let’s just talk about a surrendered heart. What do you mean by the word surrendered?
Guillermo: Okay, you know Sid the Lord never asked us as Christians to do something easy He hasn’t done it. And the surrender God hasn’t asked us anything that He’s not willing to do Himself and that’s the reason He surrendered Himself. And that’s why when we surrender our heart it reminds God of His Son’s sacrifice. What I’m saying surrender is this I’m going to explain the definition of surrender. Surrendered heart is the heart that yields it’s right to God. Surrendered heart is a heart that activates the law of exchange. What do you mean the law of exchange? This is what John the Baptist says “It’s necessary for me to lessen, and Jesus can grow.” I’m paraphrasing. so in surrender is the law of exchange. My question to you the listeners is “What do you need of yourself that you need to surrender to God in order for God to fill you with Him.” So surrender so when we’re talking about surrender it’s a sign of the spiritual maturity. A surrendered heart freely obeys and yields to God. Surrender when we’re talking about surrender is giving of ourself, it’s giving and yielding to God. Accepting God or what God has for us, and somebody is saying “Yeah, but what about I can’t surrender?” Well that’s the reason because surrender you must release the control of your life. And if you want to take control of your life you can’t solve the problems that you facing you need to release it to God, let God be God. And the moment you yield… the word surrender means to yield to. What are you yielding, you’re yielding your insecurities, you’re yielding your fears, your yielding those things that are pressing you. You’re yielding your finances, you’re yielding your things that are yours. And the moment your yielding to God God will give you His strength. If you yield your fears God will give you His power, if you yield your unforgiveness to Him He will give you His forgiveness. So it’s important to surrender and this word is not popular today Sid when we’re talking about surrendered, dying to self those words aren’t because we want this generation, the spirit of the age, is this is what they teach and this is spirit of the age even in the church instant gratification. I don’t have to do anything to get anything from God. And I understand everything we receive is by grace, but there’s somethings that God will not be able to do until we surrender to Him and then He will be the Lord to walk on it.
Sid: Give me an example like in your book you give so many examples what about Frederick whose father was a Pastor and he was abused by his father.
Guillermo: You know I have those cases many times and this was one of the cases that he was so bitter that he said “I can’t understand how my father being a Pastor do this an do that.” And I was teaching on it and I also teach in the book “You must surrender that bitterness and unforgiveness and forgive your father otherwise you’re stopping the blessing that’s upon your father coming upon you.” So he made a decision and he surrendered to God and the many people that are listening to me and they’re saying “How do you surrender?” When you do it just do this kind of prayer “Father I surrender my unforgiveness to you, I surrender my bitterness to you, I surrender things in my heart that are poisoning me and they stole my peace and I give it to you; and now I receive by the law of exchange what you have for me.” And that moment when this man released that unforgiveness God filled him with His Spirit touched his heart now he’s on fire for God.
Sid: Guillermo I have to tell you something there it started just a few minutes ago there is a river in this studio it’s just pouring out. Is there a prayer, what do you want to do I mean God’s doing this for a purpose right now?
Guillermo: Yes, you know Sid there’s so many people struggling let me talk to those people that are working over there and they’re saying there’s so many areas where I don’t see a breakthrough in my heart. Remember what I said from the beginning the condition of your heart will determine the condition of your life. There’s some things in your life that you’re struggling that you’re fighting that you don’t know what to do I’m going to lead you into a prayer of surrender or yielding to God those things that you yielding the natural to receive the supernatural, surrendering your anger, your bitterness to receive forgiveness and peace. And after I do that I’m going to release the prayer of healing in the mind, in the spirit, and all over your being because when your heart changes it will change everything. Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ those people right now that are struggling those areas of their life that they’re saying “I don’t know I can’t change but the Holy Spirit is in your house or wherever you are now” and I want you to open your mouth and say “God I surrender my anger, I surrender my unforgiveness, I surrender my fear, I want you to open your mouth and surrender areas that you can not change in your own ability do it right now. Wherever your listening to me right now if you’re driving, if you’re doing anything I want you to start surrendering things to God. I surrender the natural to receive the supernatural. And now do it right now. Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and right now a wave of miracle sin their bodies coming; those people that they’re sickness are connected to the condition of the heart I command all of those bodies to be healed; blindness is being healed, deafness is being healed, arthritis is being healed, back condition people with back condition are being healed right now; I can see a man God is restoring 2 brand new knees as a matter of fact this creative miracle God is healing a man that is 39 years old God is creating brand new knees right now in Jesus. If you had a problem in your knees metals in your body God is doing something special in your back. There’s a pain in your body because you forgave you surrendered to God Father heal him. And Father those that are oppressed in their mind taking pills to sleep I rebuke every spirit of oppression in their mind. And right now in Jesus Name I declare total deliverance in your soul, in your mind, your body your spirit your emotion release that unforgiveness, release that bitterness. And right now I declare total healing receive it now in Jesus name. Now you’re healed to what you couldn’t do before and your mind is clear now. Something left you because you forgave and you released the power of God. Father in Jesus Name be healed, be delivered in Jesus Name! Amen.
Sid: Guillermo pray right now for a baptism of love.
Guillermo: Yes, many people are struggling right now they’re saying “I can’t forgive, I can’t forgive.” Yes because to forgive you have to be full of love and love is the motivation to forgive. And right now Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ Lord Jesus I release that liquid love upon the listeners. Every man as a matter of fact theres a woman that is listening to me and that woman you wanted to commit suicide and you’re a rich Jewish woman. And something in you ready to commit suicide and you felt that liquid love falling on you right now in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ young people are listening to me now and liquid love you feel something is filling your home, filling your office and those listeners right now the Baptism of love. Jesus release the baptism of love, fill them to forgive, to surrender to die to self and to commit completely into your cause into Your kingdom right now Lord baptize them, submerge them in the baptism of love. There you go, there you go receive it right now there you go lift your hands where ever you are now that baptism of love. You feel like a liquid love filling, if you feel to cry if you feel to do something do it don’t hold yourself down just release yourself and be filled with the love of Jesus Christ. Be baptized right now in Jesus Name.
Sid: Guillermo I want to make available your book this is not just your latest book although it is your brand new book called “Supernatural Transformation – Change Your Heart Into God’s Heart.” Every chapter is flooded with revelation and there are people they call themselves prepers that are preparing for hard times and I believe that if God shows you you should prepare because most people know hard times are coming but I don’t know a better way to be a preper then to get rid of your hardened heart. To surrender totally to God if not now, when? …Guillermo tell me what people are saying when they get a hold of your brand new book, or when you gave these two messages at your church that we have the CD’s of “A Broken Heart.” What feedback are you getting?
Guillermo: I was say the feedback is so overwhelming people are saying “When I read the first chapter of the book I started weeping and something started changing in me.” Other people said “I read the whole book but there was a chapter that impacted me in such a way that the presence of God fell into my room.” And I can tell you I got documented those testimonies that I’m telling you of people that were touched and then you tell me afterwards “Oh, they were totally changed.” I see many people that their finances were totally stagnated and something wrong with finances the moment they connect the heart with the condition of their life and they repented they changed and the presence came and the condition of the life their finances were totally restored businesses and I’m hearing a lot of areas because the heart touches every area of your life it’s not only healing but also finances and many marriages are being restored as a result of hearing the book and listening the book.
Sid: My guest by way of telephone I’m speaking to him at his home right outside of Los Angeles, California, Hal Lindsey. And we were talking about the times that we’re living in and Daniel says that in the last days that there would be codes that would be deciphered right in the Bible. And you know Hal there is no way people could understand what these prophets were talking about. For instance, the revived Roman Empire, the One World Government, there’s no way people could understand about that. In Daniel explain about the revived Roman Empire.
Hal: Yes, in Daniel it talks about… actually it gives the pageantry of 4 great Gentile world powers that would succeed each other, one right after the other one would destroy the other. And of course the last one was Rome, but this 4th World Empire Rome is the carefully predicted as never being destroyed actually but simply disintegrating and then reviving in the times just before the return of Christ. And it says that it would be composed of 10 nations out of that old culture and people that would rise up and become a revived Roman Empire. Well of course, in the book of Revelation indicates that Rome will once again be the Capitol. Well I started talking about this back in the 60’s and then when I wrote the “Late Great Planet Earth” in 1969. I said that Europe would become the United States of Europe again and the base of this new Roman Empire. And a Cardinal from the Vatican pronounced me a false prophet for saying such things. But I don’t think that anyone would dispute that Rome and the European western European culture has revived into the United States of Europe. I believe that the foundation for power that will lead the west is laid there. So that means the United States which has been the supreme power of the west since World War II, somehow is going have to fade from power. Well I think that maybe these new assaults of terrorist maybe the cause.
Sid: You know when the European Union started and their even dollars their Euro dollar it was worth less than the US dollar. Now it’s worth more than the US dollar, it’s amazing.
Hal: Rapidly changing all of that and you know all that it’s going to take is another major strike from like Al-Qaida to push us over the line economically the rest of our power goes with it.
Sid: Well, you know I was in Israel recently and I’m not one of these people that hears audible voice, I wish I was, but I heard God’s audible voice three times in my life and I heard His voice just recently in Israel. And it was something I wasn’t expecting at all and He said “Economic judgment.” And I felt like what He was saying was this is the next thing that was going to happen in the United States of America so I find it interesting that that’s what is coming out of your mouth right now.
Hal: Well this is what I’ve seen for sometimes that economically we’re going to be hit and you know all it’ll take is another real major strike. And I believe that there will be one and that’s going to push it over the line because you know what happened September 11, 2001 is still sending shock waves through our economy.
Sid: And you know that last month some college student was able to put box cutters on an airplane without being detected. I mean if he’s figured out how to do it how about these top intelligence agencies.
Hal: Oh man. You know I don’t believe that we’ve by any means stop the threat of terrorism but you know there’s so many ways the world economy could be hit by these devoted Muslims. The Moroccan Straights which flows underneath Singapore is another place probably the hottest seed bed of terrorists in the world right now is in that area around Indonesia and Malaysia.
Sid: Now at one time I don’t know how it is today but at one time they had some very very wealthy people in that part of the world.
Hal: Oh yes still do and the problem is this terrorist could take a merchant ship load it with nuclear waste blow it up in the Moroccan Straights and make it impassable. Well a third of the world’s commerce goes through that straight and that would disrupt the world’s economy.
Sid: My goodness that sounds like the book of Revelation to me!
Hal: It certainly does. And Osama bin Laden has made the cryptic prophecy that he will die in the belly of the eagle sometime in this year or the next. And that’s not hard to figure out that they call the United States the eagle. And he has what has been described as the Al-Qaida navy 17 merchant ships and it would be very easy for Al-Qaida to sail one of these ships into the harbor or some place like Seattle, New York or San Francisco and blow it up. Have one of the containers filled with nuclear material blow it up there and it would kill literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. And this could push us over the line economically but those sort of things certainly are a possibility of the near future.
Sid: I want to go back to the revived Roman Empire; you made the statement that you thought the Anti-Christ would come out of that arena.
Hal: Yes and the reason is because he definitely comes to Rome and then he uses that as the seat of power and it would be virtually inconceivable that anyone other than a European would be received by the Europeans as their leader. So a…but Daniel Chapter 9 actually seals that issue for me because Daniel says that “The people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the temple.” Now that was a prophesy that was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem which happened in 70 AD with the temple. And it says “It would be done by the people of the prince who shall come.” Well the prince who shall come is the Anti-Christ so if he is…if it was his people that destroyed the city and the temple in 70 AD they were Romans so that means the prince who shall come, the Anti-Christ will be a Roman.
Sid: Now I’ve heard some people say that he would have to be Jewish to be accepted by Israel, what do you think about that?
Hal: Well, I think certainly the second anti-Christ will be Jewish the one called the false prophet but there is a possibility that the prince of Rome would also be Jewish. And it’s interesting that there is a Cardinal right now that is one of the top contenders to be the next Pope.
Sid: Now there’s a number of prophecies written hundreds of hundreds of years ago that kind of prophesied this next Pope would be a very serious player in the end times.
Hal: Yes, and these are rather unusual kinds of prophesies.
Sid: Now is that Cardinal that you’re thinking of is he Jewish?
Hal: Yes, he is. He is a Cardinal who was actually his parents were sent to concentration camp and they were killed and some French a French family hid him and adopted him. And so he was raised Catholic but he is of Jewish parents. And I’m trying to think I think it’s Huntsinger but he is Jewish and he is a Cardinal and he is one of the top Cardinals in contingent for the next Pope.
Sid: Hm. Let me ask a question, what do you see as the next event that’s going to happen in Israel.
Hal: Well, it’s difficult to say but I think something very dramatic has to happen soon in order to give them a much greater economic base. I am watching very carefully a group called “Zion Oil” because I have seen some of the geological findings that they have made and the people who are drilling really understand some prophesies about the last days and I believe that they may hit oil in Israel.
Sid: I don’t know about the specific company that’s going to do it but I absolutely believe that they’re going to hit oil because Israel at some point has got to have a reason to be invaded.
Sid: Beyond just the Islamic reason.
Hal: Right and Ezekiel 38 says that “They would have great wealth.” Well, about the only thing that would give them get wealth right now that they would hit an enormous reservoir of oil and that’s possible.
Sid: But you know of all of the brain drain so to speak from Russia all of these top Russians scientist and computer whizzes that have gone to Israel. I believe and it’s already starting. That Israel also will be the high tech capitol of the world too.
Hal: Oh, I think that they already started that. Once…if they hit oil it’ll change the whole balance of power in the Middle East and this will give them the kind of assets that would be necessary to truly develop the tremendous brain power they have there.
Sid: Now back in 1991 you actually predicted that “Islam would be the most dangerous system to world peace” how did you know that in ’91 it’s easy to see today?
Hal: You know it’s another one of those things where…
Sid: Oh, I’, sorry we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow broadcast Mishpochah.
Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Dr. Jim Richards and I am interviewing him on this book. And you know every once and awhile a book crosses your hands that’ll change your life. I mean dramatically change your life. This is one of them. The book’s title is “How to Stop the Pain.” And you know Jim I believe that there are a lot of people with pain that have stuffed it so deep that they don’t even know… they’re out of touch with the fact that they have this pain. And they have this kind of a passive aggressive is that the right terminology behavior where out of the blue they’ll do something aggressive at you and they’re not even in touch with their pain.
Jim: Oh, most people are and you’re exactly right. We bury our pain because at the time it happens we don’t know how to deal with it.
Sid: And so that’s why when I read the title “How to Stop the Pain.” And someone would say “I don’t have any pain.” And they’re suffering so badly they don’t know what’s going to hit them. I mean that’s the worst kind of pain.
Jim: That’s right.
Sid: When it’s so deep that you’re not in touch with it.
Jim: That’s right and it will drive your life with you having little awareness of why you’re acting the way you’re acting or you’re doing the thing that you’re doing.
Sid: Now on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about your daughters. My goodness you have, did you say 5 daughters?
Jim: Five daughters and 10 grandchildren.
Sid: Five daughters that must have been quite a household. (Laughing)
Jim: That was a journey that you just cannot believe. (Laughing)
Sid: (Laughing) but you had a problem with your daughters.
Jim: Two of my daughters that just infuriated me. I went through such guilt and torment I felt condemned you know I would get so angry at them and they really weren’t any worse or doing anything worse than my other daughters were doing. And it wasn’t until I came to understand the power of judging that I realized why their behavior was affecting me. You know we talked about this yesterday a person’s behavior only has the ability to affect you based on the significance you attach to it. Now I’m a pretty direct communicator so… and particularly when I was younger you know this was quite good while back but when I was younger you know I was pretty direct. And if I was in direct with you basically it meant I didn’t want to tell you something or I was manipulating. And as it turned out these two particular daughters that I had the most problems with they were you know they were indirect communicators, they were really kind of touchy feely kind of girls very emotional. Now there was nothing wrong with that, but when they would come to me and want something inside of just coming and saying “Hey dad I want this would you do it or give it to me” which would have been the easiest way to get it. You know they would come and you know they would like to kind of attach emotionally and sit in your lap and kind of hug you and beat around the bush and eventually they would tell you what they wanted. And it would make me so angry. And what I finally realized I was passing a judgment and judgment is when you assumed you knew why they do what they do.
Sid: Why did you feel they were doing it?
Jim: Well see you know we judge everybody we project our motives on everybody around us. We assume that people do things for the same reasons that we do. So naturally I would think that you know if I’m indirect that I’m manipulating, that I passed the judgment that says “This is why you’re being indirect.”
Jim: And so it affected me as if they were in fact really trying to judge me or manipulate me and they weren’t. And you know when it was so incredible when I released them from my judgment.
Sid: Excuse me how did you do that?
Jim: You know it’s a prayerful choice. First of all, I had to realize that I was passing a judgment.
Sid: That’s what’s so wonderful about your book. I am realizing what I’m doing so clearly from reading your book but you can’t do anything about it if you’re ignorant that you’re doing something.
Jim: Exactly, and you know most people are not wanting to live a life of judgment. I didn’t want to have you know the destructive relationship that I was having with these 2 daughters. But you know were just the product of what we believed all of our lives and this was an area of renewing my mind nobody has ever taught me I didn’t know I didn’t realize until I had walked this thing through prayerfully with God. In my relationship with God you know God showed me that “You’re judging them.” And you know that when I came to that realization, and you know I came to that realization because I was in a situation where somebody else was judging me and I started saying “This person doesn’t know why I’m doing what I’m doing.” And through that God said “Look this is what you’re doing to people all of the time.”
Sid: So it’s that what happens in the sowing and reaping principal. You’re judging your daughters and then people are judging you.
Jim: That’s right. (Laughing) And so what was so incredible is I made a deliberate decision I said “You know Father what I’ve done is wrong and I accept your forgiveness for it but more than that I want to walk in righteousness I want to renew my mind here.” And I made a decision I just said “In the name of Jesus I release my children from my judgment, if I want to know why they’re doing what they’re doing I’ll ask them.” And just making that decision and making a commitment to walk in love and openness to them I’m telling you it radically changed by relationship with those girls.
Sid: Well that just sounds too simple Jim.
Jim: Doesn’t it?
Jim: You know I’ve basically gotten a couple of letters from people who really really have complex problems and they said “This is just too simple.” All I could do is write them back and say “You know something my father tried to burn us alive when we were children; I watched my father regularly try to murder my mother; we were abandoned and by father would come back and break into our home and steal our food we nearly starved to death…
Sid: Jim, how can you be advising other people with such a past like that?
Jim: That’s the great thing about God is you know God turns the curse into a blessing.
Sid: You know you must have a lot of compassion for people that are suffering.
Jim: Oh yeah, when you’ve been there as real to you, you do. But you know what for awhile when I was first saved I was actually intolerant of people’s suffering. And we can talk about that in subsequent program about how judgment will make you not have compassion for people. But the incredible thing was it was these simple ? And I could go on and on about my mother remarried, my stepfather actually did try to murder me. I was stabbed in my sleep. You know I could go on and on with these horrible things that have happened to me. And it was accepting incredibly simple truths and acting on them that freed me for the power of the past.
Sid: I have to ask you something how did you get saved?
Jim: It was an incredible thing I went from church to church to church I asked preachers how to get out of this life that I was in. I was a drug dealer, I was strung out on drugs very severely. And here’s the incredible thing not one person, not one preacher I ever went to told me how to get born again.
Jim: And I was riding in a car with someone whose cousin was a drug supplier for us. The cousin had gotten saved and witnessed to this person. He didn’t get saved he was totally critical of him and he told me the story of his cousin witnessing to him. And it was laced with profanity and criticism and he was telling me he said “If you’re not blank blank for God you’re blank blank against God. I don’t know why the blank blank Jesus died on the cross got anything to do with my…” and he just ranted and raved. And when I got out of the car for the first time of my life laced with profanity I had the message of salvation.
Sid: Oh my goodness.
Jim: And I bowed my head and I said “God I don’t understand this I just know that this got to do with Jesus dying for me, but if You can, if You really can do something with my life today I’m going to home. I’m going to read the Bible and I’m going to find out about You and find the truth.” And I believed on Jesus and I was saved and delivered and then I started the journey of renewing my mind and coming out of the past.
Sid: You know you must have been a very angry man!
Sid: How in the world did you get rid of this anger?
Jim: Well you know something when every single day you encounter an incredible love and you wake up every morning and God is loving you in spite of your past and in spite of your short comings. You know as you experience love the Bible teaches us that as we experience God’s love we gain this capacity to give God’s love.
Sid: You know you said something so profound, you said that “All you did was release your daughter from these judgments.”
Sid: And the walls came down, what about husbands and wives? What results would occur if a husband and the wife reads the book and started practicing what you teach and they had a miserable marriage they tolerated each other. They were believers they don’t want to get divorced but they have a miserable marriage they don’t even communicate anymore, they don’t like even like… they don’t love each other anymore what would this do?
Jim: You know I get dozens and sometimes hundreds of emails and letters a week from people that say “For the first time in my life since I got saved I fallen back in love with God and have fallen in love with my mate.” As a matter of fact those are the top two testimonies in our ministry.
Sid: Why would they fall in love with God, they didn’t hate God?
Jim: Well you know what over a period of time people have to a place where I appreciate that I got saved, I appreciate that I’m going to heaven but I’m not really in love with God anymore. What I had in the beginning I’ve lost through my own pain and dysfunction and shame and guilt.
Sid: But people wouldn’t admit that to themselves because they don’t want to say that about themselves and God.
Jim: Give the most incredible invitation and I do this all over the world and when I give this in any church and no less than 80% of the congregation comes down. When I make it safe for them to admit it about 80% of every church that I’ve ever done this in comes forward and says “I’m not in love with God anymore.” And they have this incredible turnaround and fall back in love with God. See people like God, they appreciate God, but somehow or another as the shame and hurt of life comes they’re not passionately in love with Him anymore. Kind of like him, appreciate Him. See that was Peter’s issue. Peter’s guilt made him question God’s love.
Sid: Jim, we’re out of time.
Sid: My guest has been all this week has been Dr. Ray Strand. He has 2 books out that are amazing eye openers. As he puts it “We can’t rely on doctors, we must do our homework; we must become proactive.” it’s getting very complex out there when it comes to what vitamins to have; what herbs to have; what medicine to have; what diet to be on; what is good for you; what is bad for you how you can prevent most diseases. And this is the simplest and most practical approach that I’ve seen and that’s why I want to get these in your hands… Let’s devote the rest of this day Dr. Strand to being proactive. What should we do?
Ray: Well, I think that there’s a triad of healthy lifestyles; everybody needs to actually establish in their life. First of all we need to learn to eat a healthy diet that does not spike our blood sugar. In simple ways we need to avoid processed foods and certain high glycemic foods are those foods that will spike your blood-sugar very quickly like white potatoes. What you need to learn is that if you go back to the way that God has made the food; whole oranges and apples and fruits. All the fruits are fine; all the vegetables are fine; nuts, legumes, beans and then whole grains. Not processed grains but whole grains, slow cooked oatmeal; go back the way your grandfather and grandmother used to live. That is healthy, it’s not… there are good fats out there; there are bad fats; there are good proteins there are bad proteins; there a good carbs and there are bad carbs.
Sid: So the diets that say “Just cut all carbs out or just have proteins they’re not showing you the difference between the good and the bad and if you miss the good you’re affecting your health.
Ray: Well, you are and see the thing that happens is all of those vitamins and minerals and antioxidants that I’ve been talking about if everybody; if your listeners would simple go out and eat 8 to 12 servings of fruits and vegetables each and every day, and I’m talking whole fruits and vegetables they would decrease their risk of heart attack, strokes, cancer, Alzheimer’s, dementia about 3 fold just by doing that. If they add the good fats which are more your vegetable fats, your cold water fish. And like we talked about range fed chicken eggs and that has the omega3 fats and the mono-saturated fats. We need to decrease some of the saturated fats and the most horrible rancid fats; which are called rancid fats which are called trans-fats. If you read anything on the label that says partially hydrogenated those are horrible fats. Those are like margarines that came out as health foods. In fact in Europe they don’t even allow it on the marketplace.
Sid: What’s wrong with margarine?
Ray: Well because it has trans-fats and there are changed fats and they are partially heated and to thicken it and so it is actually the worst fats in the world. And we’re starting to… people need to learn those things. Well, then you turn around and when you start to eat this way; you eat for natural hunger. When you’re hungry you eat; what people don’t realize is when they eat white bread, white flour, pasta, rice or potatoes it spikes your blood sugar faster than if your slapping table sugar on your tongue.
Sid: And if it spikes your blood-sugar what affect does it have on your body?
Ray: Well, it over stimulates your release of insulin and then your blood-sugar drops below normal and the body has to then…it stimulates release of what we call stress hormones like adrenalin and cortisol and it moves it back up to normal. But we’re left with an uncontrollable hunger; you have to eat. So what many people are calling cravings or what they’re calling emotional eating is really this cycle that they’ve set off. It’s what I call a carbohydrate addiction and these people eat about 80% more calories than those who don’t spike their blood-sugar.
Sid: So is most fast food in the category of problem?
Ray: Well sure it is because you start to look at what… how much fruits or vegetables are in fast foods? I mean maybe now maybe having some salads and stuff but usually it’s a hamburger, white bun and maybe a slice of tomato and lettuce and with all the bad fat. Then the french fries which have this hydrogenated oils. So those are all bad but what people need go learn; just very simply avoid anything white sugar, white flour, white pasts, white pasta, rice, cereals and brains and get to the whole grain breads or the sprouted breads like Ezekiel bread. And then they turn around and eat whole grains, whole fruits and whole vegetables getting more of the…
Sid: What about normal wheat bread?
Ray: Well wheat bread is bad because it’s whole wheat flour, it actually has…
Sid: Now see, I always thought that I was doing good when I would have whole wheat rather than white bread.
Ray: Well, if it’s truly whole wheat…
Sid: No, it’s what you get in the restaurants.
Ray: It’s brown bread is worse than white bread.
Ray: It’s spiking your blood-sugar; it’s..
Sid: I’ve been doing everything wrong Doctor.
Ray: I know it and that’s why when you learn this…
Sid: I mean it’s a miracle that God’s preserved me! (Laughing)
Ray: (Laughing) Well, and it is and you start I feel people go back to eating more natural the way God presented it. And not going to processed foods or cereals or stuff like that they will be much healthier. But then we must exercise. The second stage is you have to be; the only thing that the body cannot stand is in activity and simply walking 30 to 45 minutes briskly 5 times a week does tremendous health benefits in doing that. And so any kind of exercise it gets your body moving you’ll have tremendous health benefits but it must be consistent and you want to have a modest activity with that. The third triad is I call cellular nutrition. And that’s what I present in “What Your Doctor Doesn’t Know About Nutritional Medicine.” What you’re doing then is proving these new nutritional supplements, vitamin C, vitamin E, Beta-carotene, the minerals, the B vitamins at optimal levels to the cell, not RDA but optimum levels. Those levels that have been shown to provide a health benefit in our medical literature. And let our cell decide what it needs and what it does not need. When you’ve combined all 3 of those you are giving yourself the best chance of remaining healthy and actually staying away from the doctor so that he doesn’t have a chance to prescribe that medication…
Sid: Even more important than that we’re living longer than ever as a people, however the quality of life stinks for most elderly people. Are you saying that most of this can be avoided?
Ray: Yes it can and people need to understand how to do it. Sid by the time we diagnose cancer, by the time we diagnosis Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s or heart disease, by the time macular degeneration people that have these diseases know that I’m speaking the truth. We don’t have much to offer them. Now we might bypass, we might do this, we might look at President Reagan, you think that he could afford the medication you know to slow down the process. He didn’t know his family for the last 5 – 6 years. It was his death was a blessing he could be with the Lord now he was trapped in his body. So living a long time is not a blessing unless we have our health. I think that’s what I’ve been trying to tell people and this is where we need to go. And people need to say “Hey, I just can’t come in running into the doctor when I’m all rusted out and saying “Save me doctor.” We have to do something before and become proactive, with our health.
Sid: Well, you call it an anti-aging strategy. In your book I find it very interesting, something I find that very few doctors even mention. You mentioned people have to have certain tests and one of the key ones to prevent heart trouble is a homocysteine level. What is that?
Ray: Well, homocysteine is a byproduct of protein; a breakdown of protein metabolism called methionine. And they found that elevated homocysteine levels in our blood-stream is the cause of over 15 % of every heart attack and stroke in this country. But it’s a vitamin…it’s due to a vitamin B deficiency. Your Folic Acid, B6 and B12 and yet doctors don’t test for that.
Sid: So like if someone takes a test and they find out they are low basically all they have to do is take a couple of B vitamins and they’ll be okay?
Ray: For pennies a day.
Ray: And drop it down, and it’s like anything, other things cause inflammation. People don’t know this but when you go out and have a fatty meal or a Big Mac or an Egg McMuffin or something for breakfast they’ve checked your arteries. Your arteries go into spasm for 4 to 6 hours after that meal. And the same thing with spiking your blood-sugar and you go and have a bagel, or juice and a cup of coffee and that will spike your blood-sugar and cause inflammation and cause your arteries to go into spasm for to 6 hours after that meal.
Sid: Now what do you think about for dinner having a gigantic t-bone steak?
Ray: Probably would do the same thing, you know you can take antioxidants. You know quantity. If you’re going to eat red meat eat the leanest you can get your hands on. But you know your best protein; your second best is cold-water fish, the third is…
Sid: Excuse me, what are coldwater fish?
Ray: Like mackerels, salmon, tuna, trout because they have this good fats, the Omega 3 fats will lower your cholesterol; will decrease inflammation and they will raise the good cholesterol. That’s the same thing as olive, and olive oil and the good vegetable oils that aren’t over heated or over treated. Those….
Sid: Dr. Strand I’m sorry our time is slipping away. I thank you for being our guest. There’s no way we can cover this; it’s time to get pro-active.
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be normal. What is normal, normal is being red hot for Jesus. What is abnormal? Abnormal is being lukewarm; I mean Jesus put it this way it’s kind of a mind-blower in the Book of Revelation. He said “I would rather you be cold for me than lukewarm. Now, why would He say that? He said it because if your cold you know that your cold but if you’re lukewarm you’re deceived. And unfortunately most people that have been raised in the church have not had an encounter with the Living God and are not disciples are walking in various degrees of deception. And when I say disciples I’m not saying disciples of a man; I mean I’m saying disciples of the word of God; there is a difference. I mean if you want to argue tradition I can do it I’m Jewish, you know what I mean. My tradition is older and maybe a little more beautiful than yours. But tradition and a dime won’t get you a cup of coffee in Washington, DC will it Dr. Catherine Millard?
Sid: I have that whose my guest is right now and I’m speaking to her at Headquarters at Northern Virginia of the Christian Heritage Ministries. And Christian Heritage Tours and we are going to talk about a subject that is just so outrageous it’s called “The Rewriting of America’s History. And why is this important? Well, I have to ask you a question that I read in your book. Catherine you said that “Rewriting a nations history is frequently one of the first strategies taken by a conquering nation.” Why is that?
Catherine: Because a nation that doesn’t know where it came from has lost it’s roots; doesn’t know who it is in the present, has lost it’s identity and therefore doesn’t know where it’s going and has lost it’s direction.
Sid: But wait a second Catherine I went to public High School, I studied American History. Anyone that becomes a citizen of the US has to study history, why does this apply to America? I think that it would apply to a conquered nation.
Catherine: Because you have studied revisionist history from what you shared with me a little bit before the program and my response to your question about Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin that just what you were sharing with me about them proved to me that you had imbibed like every single American I’ve met.
Sid: Okay, let’s turn the light bulb on right now for me and every single person that’s listening to us right now. What I said was that “It is common knowledge that Thomas Jefferson was not a man of great morality. I mean look at all the children he fathered from his slaves. And Benjamin Franklin I mean, in the popular books on Benjamin Franklin I mean he went off to France and he was kind of elderly and he had so many girl friends and he was married and he was I mean and so these two people certainly very moral
Catherine: Well, look at your books again if you have them and see the dates they were published and look in the back and see the bibliography and see that they have either have no bibliography or the bibliography would be secondary sources. Because the history in America has been rewritten in the 1930’s as I’ve traced back in my 5 ½ years of research and in writing the book “The Rewriting of America’s History.”
Sid: So who did this revision that started in that time?
Catherine: Well, alright first it’s a movement; it’s a very powerful movement. People that have taken positions of power in the educational realm and the media specifically but every other realm in the 1930’s. It was an agenda and it goes back to…it’s like physio-politics which is the art and signs of the manipulating masses of minds of people without their knowing it. And the Russian tech books of the 1930’s in the conclusion to my book have fitted in exactly with all the individual conclusions I have come to as I said working for 5 ½ years in the rare-book collections of the Library of Congress. Now the rare-book collection my being a scholar there 20 years now has been just about everyone of our one of a kind originals and they were buried in a vault and there were 4 billion. $4 billion dollars of national treasures and that’s how I’ve been able to write this book beginning with 1492 Christopher Columbus and going to 1899. Here’s the one of a kind of the original, here’s the the counterfeit, here’s the original, here’s what you’ve been studying in your schools in the 1930’s. Here’s the original; here’s what has been permeating the Newsweekly’s, the magazines and the libraries since the 1930’s. So to deal with your 2 questions there about Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, they were maligned. Like everyone of the founders has been in current history books published in America since 1930’s that I have consulted and I’ve consulted probably about 1000’s.
Sid: But what is the objective, what are these people after?
Catherine: Well, firstly let me deal with the disproving it. And Thomas Jefferson and we put out a video; it’s the 7th video entitled “Controversial Christians about Thomas Jefferson and went to the top DNA experts worldwide and top universities in the world and got their statements which were published in Science magazines and Nature Magazine 2 months after this hit the news in the Fall of 1998. And they refuted it; the top DNA experts refuted it and it’s on the…all of the evidence is on this video because they say that “It could not have been, it was impossible it could not have been Tomas Jefferson. The most likely candidate was his brother Randolph Jefferson who was a 12 years younger; who was a widower. Who danced and played the fiddle with the slaves, was seen continually there. And they have proof, we have proof that he was there when Easten Hemings, Sally Heming’s son was conceived and he was also there 6 days after Easten Heming’s birth because working on Jefferson’s will at the time. It’s impossible, it’s not just Jefferson, his mind was way above all of that and they have deliberately…in fact I went all the way to the historian who began the research and I had long conversations with him and have written evidence sent to me in the mail from him. And I have spoken to him many times on the telephone. He started his research because his wife is a direct ascendant of Thomas Jefferson. They come to no conclusions what so ever. And they were doing by retired pathologists by the name of Eugene Foster from the University of Virginia. And Eugene Foster published these inconclusive, inconclusive story about Jefferson in the fall of 1998 without their knowledge. And of course broke off their relationship and of course broke off their friendship when they asked him “Why did you do it?” He said “He wanted fame.” And all of that was refuted in Science Magazine and Nature Magazine. He’d published it in Nature Magazine initially and the paper just picked it up immediately to make something sensational out of it. It was refuted 2 months later in January of 1999 by these top DNA experts world wide and scientist but the newspapers never picked it up. As far as…
Sid: Benjamin Franklin.
Catherine: As far as Benjamin Franklin is concerned you know I’ve spent actually more time on Thomas Jefferson and then on Benjamin Franklin than any other founding father. They were the most versatile and they were the most brilliant I believe of all of the founding fathers. And they were inventors, they were, well Thomas Jefferson’s was a Musician and a lawyer and a self-taught architect and of course President of the United States and Vice President. He was extremely accomplished and so was Benjamin Franklin. And Benjamin Franklin being a diplomat and a scientist and an inventor and a signer of the Declaration of Independence and a signer of the US Constitution. I disproved that with Benjamin Franklin totally were both, made up completely outlandish lies because our great people and this great nation have not studied original history and the documents of American history since the 1930’s so they were able to do it. Benjamin Franklin was a member of Christ Epistable Church in Philadelphia. Today if you went there you’d fine that it was called The Nation’s Church. It was the most starch church in whole nation because the entire revolution revolved around it; the founding fathers attended that church during the framing of the US Constitution and prior to that during the framing of the..
Sid: Catherine give me a bottom-line; what is the agenda, what is the purpose of all of these rewriting, we’ve barely scratched the surface of this rewriting of America’s history. What is the intent?
Catherine: Well, the intent is to remove the godly heroes from the hearts and minds of youth who are the future generation.
Sid: And what will this accomplish if they’re successful?
Catherine: Well, they have become successful to a large extent; they’ve become apathetic; they thought they were studying history but they were actually studying annuls and they were studying revisionist false history. It turned them away from not only their founders and their greatest heroes who are actually great servants of the Living God. And they then destroyed the patriotism and it gave them a guilt trip about their own country. So that they could no longer emulate the Christian lives of these great founders. And their greatest heroes are told are the renegades and convicts and immoral. And it puts a black smudge on a young person growing up; it turns them away from their country.
Sid: Okay, let’s take that scenario a bit further, you mean that’s going to be the preparation of a one world government? Is that what you’re headed towards?
Catherine: Yes, actually that is part of it and it’s very importantly part of it.
Sid: A one world religion?
Catherine: Yes, because these godly Christian heroes; the documents of American history from 1490 to 1899 are filled with scripture and prayer. Prayer in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. And as you can see in my book, from originals, and so the godly lives; the Christian lives represent Protestant, strong Biblical Protestant Christianity based on the scriptures and prayer based on the Lord, Almighty God. The nation was founded, the great documents of the great founding of the nation are based upon scripture and prayer. And so that’s the only obstacle in the way of their disbanding the sovereignty of a nation.
Sid: I’ll tell you what, we’re out of time. I’m speaking to Dr. Catherine Mallard and this is going to be a fascinating week. But there’s no way that we can cover all the information in her book “The Rewriting of the America’s History.” And I’ll tell you something, if you have a child or a grandchild in secular schools this information must get to them so that they won’t be dooped like everyone else. If you have a home schooler, this information you must give to them.