SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest’s father was the devil. I’m serious. He has a new father now, God. And his passion based on his former knowledge is to keep you three steps ahead of the devil. You know, all of us have had real challenges in our lives, but John, you really had challenges. Your father practiced something called Santeria.
SID: Which is just a demonic religion I assume.
JOHN: Yes. It’s the number one demonic religion in the world today.
SID: And your father and your mother, constant turmoil. He used to beat her. But when you were eight years old your mom took you to a Tarot reader. What happened?
JOHN: My mom was going with my aunt and basically when I got there the lady, the witch that read the cards, she focused on me. She didn’t focus on my mom. She didn’t focus on my aunt. She told my mom that she saw in the spirit that I was going to lose my eyesight and if I didn’t get a ceremony done within the next 30 days I was going to be completely blind. So my mom panicked as any mother would and my mom allowed me to get the cards read. The lady read and they went on and a couple days later they initiated me to the dark side at the age of eight years old.
SID: And when at 13, you actually were willing or praying for your father to die?
JOHN: Yes. I remember my half-brother and brothers, and we would stay up all night, and he beat my mother all night long. So he would beat my mother all night. So we would be in the room. Sometimes we ran out of the room to try and help my mom [to keep him] from beating her, and he would throw us around, and then we’d go back into the room. And so one day I sat on the bed and started to pray, was just praying. I wasn’t even praying to God. I was just praying and saying, I hope he dies, I hope he dies. I hope someone kills him. And at the age of 13 years old, my father got shot at the age of 33, in the face, from a woman at a social club when he had a wife at home.
SID: Did you feel guilty about that?
JOHN: I was rejoicing, to be truthfully honest. I was rejoicing because I know the torment and the hate in my house, and the pain to go to school and put up a face as a young boy, and act like everything was okay at home, to put up a face and knowing that there was nothing but torment in my house.
SID: You began to really grow in the demonic and you, why did you feel Satan was your father?
JOHN: My father was a devil worshiper and that came from a generation of devil worshipers on my father’s side, generation to generation, Santeria, spiritualism, card readings, Palo Mayombe. Palo Mayombe is when you sell your soul to the devil and you make a contract with the blood, which I did later on in my years. And I would sit with the devil and speak to the devil all night long. I was going to demon church at the age of eight years from seven in the evening until five in the morning to be trained with principalities, demonic spirits, territory spirits. I was learning stuff in the spirit realm beyond the age of eight. So to me was, I told the devil, when you kill my father, you know, you can have me. So I told the devil, you can have me, and the devil said, I replace the old with the new.
SID: But God had a secret weapon, a beautiful woman and she invited you to church. What happened?
JOHN: Actually, she was a backslider. She was a backslider. So God got two for the price of one.
SID: So what happened when you went to that church?
JOHN: Actually, I went to the church. I asked the devil permission. I asked the devil, could I go to church. He said, “Go to church. People are weak. They don’t have no strength against us. They don’t have no power against us. You can go to church.” I was after the girl because she was a pretty girl and she lived in the neighborhood, so I didn’t have to move my car around, so we could go eat anywhere. So I thought that was a good deal. But you know, God was setting up a game plan, you know, for my life.
SID: You really got upset one time with the pastor. What happened?
JOHN: Well you know, the devil, I went to church a little too much without asking permission any more. And then the devil said, the devil showed up in church. In church, the devil showed up and I hear the devil whisper in my ear and tell me, “I didn’t tell you to come this Sunday. I didn’t give you permission to come this Sunday.” It was strange because the pastor did an altar [call] in the middle of the service. Usually they do that at the end of the service. So I got up. I said, well if I go by the pastor the devil won’t blast me. He will leave me alone. So when I went up, people came up to the middle, so I was one of the last ones to be prayed for. So I stayed here by the time he came. I didn’t want him to pray for me anyway. But by the time he gets to me he’s tired and the devil is gone. That was my plan. But when he came up to me, the devil possessed me right there, and I grabbed him by the throat and I picked him up in the air, and I said, “Today is the day you’re going to die.” And then all this foul stuff came out of my mouth and people jumped out of their seats, and I mean, big men jumped out of their seats, tried to grab me down and peel my hands off the pastor’s throat. He was turning purple.
SID: But he goes home and he prays a prayer, an unbelievable prayer. Listen to this. John cried out to God, “If you are bigger than my god,” with a small “g” although he didn’t know it at the time, “than my god that I serve, show me tonight or just leave me alone.” When we come back, we’re going to find out what happened from that prayer.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. How many of us have had dreams and we haven’t really been able to figure it out. My guest has learned the language of Heaven and teaches people how to know what their dreams really mean. Anyone here interested in really knowing what, you want to learn that supernatural language? Get ready. I’m so excited about this show because yesterday we had a staff prayer meeting and we saw Adam move in the prophetic in accuracy like, and I have to tell you, I haven’t seen that before. Now you were not always prophetic. But you had an automobile accident. What happened?
ADAM: Well I did this sheepish thing when I was a young man.
SID: You weren’t a believer.
ADAM: No, I wasn’t a believer.
SID: We were pretty stupid before we knew the Messiah, some of us even after. Oy vey, I can’t believe I said that.
ADAM: And I did a pretty stupid thing. Driving home from a party I was intoxicated with alcohol with a friend of mine, one of my best friends. And all of a sudden there was this massive bang and we drive under a truck. So I got out of the car and the actual truck driver noticed I was intoxicated. I was actually seeing double. That’s how drunk I was. And he called the police and there was a big scene and thought to myself, oh boy, I’m in a lot of trouble. I went inside a little bit and I started to pray, and my friend said, “What are you doing?” I said, “I’m praying to God.” And he said, “Why?” And I said, “Well I’m going to God, I’m praying to God that if he gets me out of this I will, I’ll go to church and I’ll actually repent and ask God into my life and follow him.” And he didn’t know what to say, my friend. But the police officer came up to me and he showed me, he showed me this machine, I had to blow into this thing to test my breath, and he looked at it and it was completely negative. And I was seeing double. I was trying very hard to be sober.
SID: So that was in your mind and mine, too, that was an absolute miracle. He becomes a believer then he has a visitation from Jesus. What happened?
ADAM: Well ten years later, one night I actually came home from a late night after a long day’s work. All my family were asleep. And I saw this TV article on CNN of this TV evangelist. They called him out, you know, with some sin that he did, you know, with some prostitutes, and I called out, I was getting angry, and I said, “Where are you Lord when these men mock you?” I was looking for an excuse not to serve God. Anyway, the long story short, I felt the presence of God come into the room so strong. It came so thick I found myself shaking. My hands were shaking. Then I found myself on my knees shaking. I found myself, you know, completely wiped out on the floor prostrate with the presence of God so strong, it was a like a bright light just switched on in the place. And I was repenting because I wasn’t sure what was happening. I thought I was going to die. But what happened is before me was this fire, like a, all I could describe was like a burning bush. But in this fire was a man and there was a voice that spoke to me, went right through me, and I knew it was the Lord. And he said something interesting, he said, “Well I’m here now. What would you like me to do for you?” And I said, “Lord, give me wisdom.” That’s all I asked. I said, “Lord, give me wisdom.” And I kept asking that. And I said, “In fact, give me a double portion of Solomon’s wisdom.” Probably a month after that, that encounter I had this massive impartation with the Spirit of God where I couldn’t stop laughing and speaking in tongues.
SID: Okay. But then you started knowing people’s names and things about them.
ADAM: That’s right.
ADAM: Just things started happening to me. I couldn’t explain. I had to work it out myself because I never had any mentors. But I could see in the spirit. I’m in the street, I knew what was wrong with people. I even knew, one time, I knew, in a cafeteria, knew the lady’s name and she thought I was some sort of stalker. She freaked out, “How do you know me?” And I’m thinking, I don’t know why I know these things.
SID: But he gradually learned. Now Adrian, you two worked together in the most phenomenal way. What is your part and what is Adam’s part?
ADRIAN: You know Sid, Adam’s got a tremendous seer’s, a prophetic gift. Mine is a teaching prophetic gift and the two seem to dovetail. One of our friends in Colorado, a friendship we developed, says, “You two guys have got a one-two punch.” And so what, we complement each other. We have a synergy between ourselves and God put us together so well. You know, it has a strength and a ministry when both aspects of the ministry are released. Because when I teach, there’s a word of revelation for the Word of God released, and when Adam is ministering, the power of God displayed as words of knowledge is released and people and individuals are set free.
SID: Okay. That begs the question. Why is it so important for us to understand our dreams?
ADRIAN: You know, to understand our dreams, if we don’t understand our dreams we’re missing part of God’s love language to us. You know, in the scriptures, a third of the Bible is poetry. Wherever we see a ragged edge in our modern Bibles is poetic. There’s more than Job to Psalms. All throughout scripture all the prophets are poetic. And we’ve moved into a kingdom of love and God uses poetry to speak to us. It’s a higher language. And if we can understand that language then God can move us and see the Kingdom manifest. Whenever Jesus spoke or taught about the Kingdom, he used parables. Our dreams are personal parables to us and they’re framed around our lives.
SID: But you explain to me that somehow when we’re in that dream state God can get through to us easier. Explain that.
ADRIAN: That’s true. You know, we have a natural defense mechanism and one of the main things of dreams is correction and warnings. God has an ability to speak to us in parable form, and in the parable he has a way of getting behind our defense mechanisms when we understand what he’s saying.
SID: Well let me tell you something. I am very frustrated over my dreams. I recognize how important it is to understand God is telling me things. I want Adrian and Adam to address this when we come back. Be right back.
SID: You know, I’m a little frustrated because I recognize God is speaking to me. But because I can’t know for sure I don’t even ponder that. Why doesn’t God just say it the way it is, say, go to Africa and be a missionary. I’ll do that. Why does he have to talk in this heavenly language to me?
ADRIAN: First of all, God speaks to us that way. He bypasses our defense mechanism and he uses images and our mind is actually created to absorb images. So God speaks to us in parables and metaphors, and images so that it can absorb into our spirit, so we can actually remember it, because sometimes when we actually dream we don’t remember initially, but some image can trigger your dream. You said, I had a dream last night.
SID: That’s right.
ADRIAN: I remember that.
SID: Okay. So Adrian, you’re much like me, logical, pragmatic, study the Word. And you used to go to Adam to have him tell you what your dreams meant, and now you don’t. Are there many people that sit under your teaching that are able to not have to go to a specialist? I don’t want to have to call him in Australia. What happened with you?
ADRIAN: You know, somebody told me that I’ll never get the gift that Adam has in dream interpretation. But spending time with Adam, understanding the voice of the spirit through someone’s dream has been imparted to me. And now together, we minister together, and people who attend our, you know, conferences and listen to our teaching grab a hold of something and it’s an impartation that takes place. I believe that that’s what we’re here to say today that this is transferable and we can, you know, God wants everybody to have the understanding of the language of dreams and have that wisdom. I thought I was going to become an intellectual genius when I asked for wisdom, but I was wrong, because I had this, it’s the wisdom to understand the language of Heaven. And you know, Joseph, when he stood before Pharaoh he had the wisdom to discern his dream. And Daniel the prophet had the wisdom to understand dreams and the mysteries of Heaven. So this is what it’s all about, is understanding the language of Heaven and being led by the Spirit of God, and this is for the body of Christ. I’m not a guru. We believe that everyone should be able to do this.
SID: You told me thousands have been able to do this.
ADRIAN: Yes, yes.
SID: And at your seminars, you release, you’ve researched this language of Heaven and you’ve researched 3000 biblical symbolisms from the scriptures for us to understand. Tell me, Adam, about what things God shows us in dreams.
ADAM: Well God can reveal our heart in a dream. And it’s very good if you’re counseling somebody. That’s one way God can speak to us in dreams. And another way is God can give us warnings in the night. When you get a warning it’s actually a blessing because God is showing you the plans of the enemy ahead of time. So you can actually go in the spirit and reverse the plans of the enemy, reverse the curse and mess up Hell and release blessings.
SID: Dreams come from different sources. Tell me.
ADRIAN: They do. Sid, we all know God gives dreams. We’ve read the scriptures and we’ve seen Joseph and Daniel had dreams. Nebuchadnezzar had dreams. So that’s a given. But the devil has a capacity to either influence our dreams or create dreams. You know, we know that from Scripture when Jesus was taken up the mountain in one of the temptations where the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the world, there’s no place where you can physically go and see the whole of the kingdoms of the world. They’re not only geographically impossible to see, but there would be different time spans between each of the kingdoms. And so we realize from that that the devil has the capacity. But the good news about that is this, that when Jesus went into the wilderness, who led him into the wilderness? It was the Spirit of God. So who was in control? God was in control. And so we have God dreams. The enemy has the capacity to influence our dreams and also our own hearts can flavor and color the dreams that we dream. But the good news is God is sovereign. He knows every one of those areas. And so what that means is that God can speak and communicate, and have a message through any one of those sources. So we don’t just go, oh that was a God dream or that wasn’t a God dream, and we throw it away and go no. There’s a message in that for me.
SID: When we come back I want them to pray impartation for you to understand your dreams. Some of you don’t have dreams to start dreaming, and basically the difference between a dream and a vision. Be right back.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest was supernaturally taught how to play the piano and when he plays the piano the atmosphere of Heaven comes on the scene and people are healed, they’re given supernatural peace, and sometimes very unique signs occur, amazing signs. For instance he was doing a segment for us at the School of the Supernatural yesterday and gold dust appeared all over his clothing. Would you like to hear some of this supernatural music? Sid Roth here with Joshua Mills. And Joshua, you are, and this is quite a heritage, you’re a fifth generation Pentecostal.
JOSHUA: I am.
SID: But you said, you didn’t see many miracles.
JOSHUA: Well you know, I grew up in a Pentecostal church and it was a really nice church, and I’m thankful for a loving family and all that kind of stuff. But the truth is we were Pentecostal by name, but much more conservative by practice. We believed in a lot of spirit-filled things. We believed healing, we believed in prophecy, we believed in those things. But it was very rare for us to actually go after them by faith and actually see them manifest in the Sunday service.
SID: But things changed.
JOSHUA: They did.
SID: When you were 16, what happened?
JOSHUA: When I was 16 years old, my parents took me to special church anniversary services, and when I walked in the church things were happening that I had never, ever had seen anywhere in my life. People were manifesting. I now understand people were manifesting in the Holy Spirit, but I actually didn’t really like what I was seeing. I thought it was weird, it was unusual. And I actually sat down.
SID: I don’t know if anyone can see this, but you’re beginning to get gold dust all over.
JOSHUA: I can see. It’s come on my arm now.
SID: All over.
JOSHUA: These are some of things that happen when the Holy Spirit shows up.
SID: Now you behave yourself.
JOSHUA: Yeah. This is going to be good. This is going to be good.
SID: I could, okay, we’re back to, you’re age 16, you’re seeing all these things and you don’t understand.
JOSHUA: The Holy Spirit is showing up. I don’t understand it. I sit down in the church. The next thing I know, the Holy Spirit comes upon me in a very personal way, literally catapults me out of my church. I end up on the floor, rolling and laughing hysterically like the loudest laughter you could ever think of. And I’m rolling on the floor.
SID: Was that the kind of person you were?
JOSHUA: I was conservative. I mean, I was a good Christian boy. I was, you know, I sat down and did what I was told. I was just a nice, quiet, young boy. And the next thing I know I am loud and hysterical, and I’m laughing for one hour, two hours, for hours I’m laughing until the end of the church service, and I’m still going to the floor.
SID: Going to the floor?
JOSHUA: I can’t get up. I can’t bring myself to get up, to stand up. And my parents were there and so my parents ended up taking me, putting me into the back of their car, and I laughed the whole way home. And it’s amazing, when we got home, my parents put me in the basement because my bedroom was upstairs and they wanted to sleep. And so they put me downstairs, and I ended up literally laughing my way to sleep. The Bible says, “The joy of the Lord is your strength.” And that’s what God was doing. He was literally strengthening me and giving me something that I had never had before in my life. The Holy Spirit was becoming so real to me. It’s like the lights came on and everything was different. The next morning, I had more of a love for God. I had a desire to spend time with God. It was no longer just a Bible story now. This was living, breathing, I mean God is real, Jesus is real, he’s alive, he’s the same yesterday, today and forever. And I got so excited about this reality that I just wanted to be with him.
SID: So what he’s saying is he went from a professional Pentecostal to normal.
JOSHUA: I was.
SID: Normal as defined the Bible.
JOSHUA: Thank God.
SID: So then you have to understand, when he was a young kid, he had piano lessons, a few.
JOSHUA: A few, yeah.
SID: What did the teacher say about your piano?
JOSHUA: The teacher told my mother to stop wasting her money. She said, “Don’t bring Joshua back. He will never, ever learn how to play piano.” That’s what she told my mother.
SID: But after this encounter with God, he had an insatiable desire to worship God. So he goes to the piano and what happens?
JOSHUA: I end up sitting at the piano and the Holy Spirit begins to teach me. The Holy Spirit begins to train me. The Holy Spirit begins instructing me. The Bible says, “The Holy Spirit will teach you in all things.” And that means all things.
SID: How many songs have you written?
JOSHUA: Oh gosh. The last they officially counted, it was over 600 songs and that was, Sid, about ten years ago that that number had come up. So it’s been thousands because every time I’m in the presence of God he’s giving me new songs, and I’m writing new songs constantly. Anybody who’s ever been in my meetings knows that generally in that meeting, we’re going to have two or three brand new spontaneous songs that come down from Heaven into the atmosphere.
SID: Speaking of atmosphere, when we come back, I’m going to have Joshua teach you how you can be in the atmosphere of Heaven 24/7 in your marriage, in your job, in your worship, in your finances. It is the most phenomenal thing because in His presence is fullness of joy, fullness. Be right back.
Sid: My guests speaking to them at their corporate headquarters for Proclaiming His Word Ministries in Santa Rosa, Florida Chester and Betsy Kylstra. They’ve been putting on seminars for people that are even in ministry that need to be set free. And they have been able to identify 4 foundational problem areas and when these are dealt with people easily are set free. Perhaps we can start out with Betsy Kylstra Identify those 4 problem areas for us.
Betsy: Sid I would love to do that as you were speaking I was just thinking about how many of us really wanted to be red hot for our Messiah but we felt like we were just still pale pink because these things were operating in our lives and we didn’t know how to identify them and get free. So today we want to talk again about the affects of the Sins of the Fathers and the Curses that are operating in our family line. And I just sense while as we were talking that the Lord is saying that to you that you can get free that this is going to show you a way and He just wants to encourage you in a little while to enter into a prayer as you identify some of the strongholds that have been passed down from generations.
Sid: And worse than the ones than the ones that have been passed down if you don’t end them they may never stop they may just keep coming until the Lord returns. Your children are going to have to bare a price someone somewhere has to have enough courage to get free.
Betsy: Yes and even more precious than your silver and gold and your good looks and the family heirlooms you can pass on generational freedom so that your children and grandchildren don’t have to repeat the same sins and be bound by those same sins such as living in fear, divorce, extreme rejection, sexual abuse, anger and rage. Just these things that are so common and have eaten up the spiritual destiny of so many of God’s children.
Sin: Look at all of the children, the youth that are involved in the demonic culture that is around them New Age and rejection society. I believe that when parents get themselves free then their children can get free.
Chester: That’s true.
Betsy: A friend of ours recently told us that the satanic bible was one of the most frequently checked out books when she was a librarian. We had an opportunity to minister to a teenage who was trapped in witchcraft but the occult had been strong in his family line.
Chester: Hmm hm.
Betsy: And we want to be able to break occult roots and particularly Masonic roots that come down a family line and cause not only these things sins to be repeated but even our infirmities our very related to some of the curses.
Sid: Let’s go to those 4 problem areas.
Betsy: Alright just to name them again there the “Sins of the Fathers and Curses” that cause hurts in the children of the family if those sins are reenacted then the children are hurt in a variety of different ways. And out of that wounding that the children experience they begin to form ungodly beliefs or lies that they live out of such as “I am unwanted, I’m unimportant, nobody cares for me, God’s not there for me, life is futile. And then besides those 3 areas they open the door for demonic oppression. And the demons come in and reinforce all of the areas and help to carry out all of the areas that we’ve mentioned. They aggregate the hurts, they reinforce the ungodly beliefs and they carry out the sins of the fathers which we will enter into. And I think you wanted to look a little bit more about at the Sins of the Fathers area is that right?
Chester: Well we’ve talked in the previous broadcast the scriptures that sort of laid out the original problem. Want to talk a little bit more about God’s freedom?
Sid: Why…first of all why do we need to break these sins of the fathers?
Chester: Well some people would argue that when we are born again it’s all taken care of. It says in Galatians 3:13 it says “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us.” And goes on in talking about the blessings but we feel that this is in everything else in the Christian walk we have to receive by faith and we don’t automatically receive all our freedom and all our healing at any one point in our Christian walk like when we’re born again not everything’s taken care of. We’ve heard wonderful testimonies about people getting instantly free of addictions etcetera or when the baptism of the Holy Spirit comes or any other profound encounter with the Lord usually significant things happen but not everything that we need because it all needs to be received by faith. And it’s a real easy to prove it all of us would be born again when we were born physically if it just happened automatically but it doesn’t. The provision has been there for almost 2000 years now for everything we need including our healing and our freedom but we have to receive it by faith.
Sid: Okay we’re talking about the “Sins of the Fathers.”
Chester: Okay we have to receive the freedom from that by faith, we have to meet God’s conditions which is confessing our own sin and the sins of our ancestors that’s pointed out for us in Leviticus 40. And then God makes it very clear that He wants us to forgive those who have offended us so He wants us to forgive our ancestors, release them or hold them accountable particularly our parents our mother and our father. And then we need to ask forgiveness for entering into these same sins and making them our own and hurting other people out of them and so we do that and we’re in a position to break the power of the curses out of our lives which then allows us to get rid of demons that are carrying them out, get rid of the ungodly beliefs that are based on the curses and the sins and to get out hurts healed. It’s all very interrelated.
Sid: Well let’s redeem the time now and let’s corporately pray if you will lead us in a prayer to get free from these areas.
Chester: Okay I’d be happy to do that why don’t you just take a moment and those of you that are listening and think of at least 1 or 2 or 3 predominate areas in your family line that is afflicting you that you’re struggling with and that you would like freedom today from that pressure to continue in that sin. Okay and now if you’d just follow me I’ll lead you in a prayer.
Lord I choose to confess.
Sid: Lord I choose to confess.
Chester: The sins in my ancestors.
Sid: The sins in my ancestors.
Chester: Including my mother and father.
Sid: Including my mother and father.
Chester: My own sins.
Sid: My own sins.
Chester: In the area of
Sid: In the area of
Chester: You name the areas that you thought of a minute or 2 ago. Each one of us will have a different area. Okay. I now choose to forgive them.
Sid: I now choose to forgive them.
Chester: And release them in every way.
Sid: And release them in every way.
Chester: that their sins and curses
Sid: that their sins and curses
Chester: that have afflicted my life.
Sid: that have afflicted my life.
Chester: And Lord I ask You to forgive me
Sid: And Lord I ask You to forgive me
Chester: for entering into these sins.
Sid: For entering into these same sins.
Chester: And perhaps hurting others because of them.
Sid: And perhaps hurting others because of them
Chester: But mostly for letting them affect my life.
Sid: But mostly for letting them affect my life.
Chester: And keeping me from my destiny.
Sid: And keeping me from my destiny.
Chester: I receive Your forgiveness.
Sid: I receive Your forgiveness.
Chester: Now Lord based on the power of your cross
Sid: Now Lord based on the power of your cross
Chester: And Your forgiving me
Sid: And Your forgiving me
Chester: I now choose to break the power of these sins
Sid: I now choose to break the power of these sins
Chester: And these curses.
Sid: And these curses.
Chester: And you might mention them again the same ones that your mentioned earlier. I break these sins from my life.
Sid: I break these sins from my life
Chester: And my descendants life.
Sid: And my descendants life.
Chester: Lord I receive Your freedom from these sins and curses.
Sid: Lord I receive Your freedom from these sins and curses.
Chester: Now just open up your heart and see what else the Lord wants to say to you just say “And I receive…”
Sid: And I receive…”
Chester: And listen God always gives us something good when we get rid of something bad. Some of you will hear His voice that still small voice speak to you in your spirit. And you might make a note of what He said because it seems we so quickly forget. And that’s really all it takes Sid simple steps of forgiveness and confession.