SID: You know, if we can just have this friendship with God, with the Holy Spirit, and that would’ve been enough, but there’s another fringe benefit Jennifer, of this friendship with the Holy Spirit. What is it?
JENNIFER: That fringe benefit is signs and wonders. You have a friendship with a supernatural friend, and so what’s on him gets on you.
SID: Well, some of the things that are going on with your friend and the glory as a result of this friendship with the Holy Spirit has to do with lights. Explain, because remember, I said the glory affects all of your senses that you have in the natural, in the supernatural. You can see the glory. You can hear the glory. You can smell the glory. You can taste the glory, you can even touch the glory. So what’s been going on with the light?
JENNIFER: Every once in awhile, the light and radiance of God, the glory of God. I’ll actually glow like a light bulb and I’ve had that happen three times specifically. And …
SID: So when the glory is on you, you’re saying you glow?
JENNIFER: I glow, and we’ve caught a few of those on camera. You know, it’s not always at a place where we’re going to take a picture of it, but right there you’re seeing that it’s one time they caught on camera where I glowed from head to toe.
SID: That is amazing.
JENNIFER: Yeah.
SID: That is so amazing. When that happened, what happened with the supernatural level in that congregation?
JENNIFER: I just know that there was angelic activity in the room. You could feel the presence of God in the atmosphere. The ministry reflected the glory …
SID: I’m sorry, I’m seeing your next picture and I got a little distracted.
JENNIFER: There’s another one.
SID: You have to understand.
JENNIFER: Yeah. Again, you know, it’s this glory, this radiance that happens on occasion and people have actually caught those pictures on camera and it just says that I’ve been with the Holy Spirit.
SID: And others see fire in your eyes.
JENNIFER: Yes, yes. I’ve had that testimony as well. Or people will notice fire begin to appear in my eyes. One time in particular, it was right before the glory of God came on the crowd of people that I was about ready to pray for. And so it was very tangible.
SID: There was one time when someone tried to disrupt your meeting. What happened?
JENNIFER: I got a word of knowledge about it. I knew something was going to happen. I didn’t know what. And then right as the disrupting person began to do what he was about to do …
Man: I’ve got something to say, I’ve got something to tell you.
JENNIFER: All of a sudden lights started swarming around me, they were visible. People were pointing at them saying, “You’re lighting up. There’s angels.” They didn’t know what to call it. It was the glory of God. He was protecting me.
SID: Now you went to Perth, Australia at a church called Paradox and as wonderful as the relationship, Jennifer has, something happened that she knows will happen to you as she teaches you that opened her up to the glory and the relationship with God beyond anything she’s thought possible. Tell me about that experience.
JENNIFER: Well, I base it on, we are going from glory to glory. Experiences are going to continue to unfold that we didn’t even know existed. That’s what happened to me. I went to do a prayer conference and the very last night of the conference, and it was a wonderful conference, but in the middle of the night I’m sound asleep, I’m satisfied. It went well. The Lord, the Holy Spirit, he visited me in the night in the strangest but most tender way he picked me up out of the bed, picked me up, brought me to his chest, almost like a quick embrace. When he did that, something from him dropped into my heart. I’m not talking about my physical heart, I’m talking about my emotions, the very core of me. Something from him dropped into that place and I was undone. Like I have never been undone before.
SID: What was he was really doing? What was being accomplished?
JENNIFER: What he was doing was he was healing the dead places of my heart. I did not know, I would describe it as half of my heart, I’m talking about emotions, I’m talking about the core of me had died and I didn’t know it. It died from grief, life, pain, betrayal, all those things …
SID: Part of being human.
JENNIFER: Human. But my heart had died and I had lost feeling in those places. I no longer cared. There was no compassion. But what’s deceptive is you don’t feel that you don’t feel.
SID: It’s called deception.
JENNIFER: And so he was waking that back up. Of course, I needed to be healed after, I had to work through work through it. There was process, but he was waking that back up because I could not experience his glory because I couldn’t be led by the spirit of God in places I can’t feel where he’s leading me. It revolutionized my life.
SID: But you realize there are many people that can say, “You know, I believe that’s me.” Can this be reproduced? Meaning, can you help people get this from God the same way you did?
JENNIFER: I found that after this experience, I began to share the story and pray for everybody everywhere and it’s completely transferable. It’s an anointing that resuscitates your heart. It brings you back to life and you can experience the glory on levels you’ve never experienced it.
SID: Okay, when we come back, would you like Jennifer to pray for you? We’ll be right back.
SANDRA: Obviously that’s a gift that took Him there.
LARRY: Yes. That’s good.
SANDRA: You know the gift of the Spirit that took Him
there.
LARRY: Yes.
SANDRA: It doesn’t say He healed anybody else. Now
you were talking about that He prayed for the guy with the blind eyes and he
saw them as trees and he came back and prayed for him. How about the guy who
came to Him, his daddy came to Him and said my son is home sick. And He said go
home.
LARRY: Yes.
SANDRA: And your son will be healed.
LARRY: Yeah.
SANDRA: And the dad asked on the way back, you
remember, he met his stewards and he asked the question when did he begin to
amend?
LARRY: Ah. That’s good.
SANDRA: So it’s the same thing. That was not a
miracle. He began to amend. That was a healing that began to take place. Now when you start talking about healings you
got to… when do you grab it? When do you believe it? When do you grab hold of
it? See if I can say to you, you know by the stripes of Jesus you’re healed and
your mind is saying oh man, I tell you I hurt so bad I don’t believe I’m healed
at all. I mean I know you’re saying I’m healed but man, I really hurt, I really
hurt then you haven’t grabbed it!
LARRY:
Mmm.
SANDRA: And what you’re doing is, remember, let me
see if I can say this real fast because it usually helps people.
LARRY: Yes
SANDRA: We are three parts. Spirit, soul and body. So
that means that we are spirit made in the image of God. We have a soul. Our
mind, our will, our emotion. And we live in a body.
LARRY: Mmm.
SANDRA: When you get born-again God takes care of the
spirit man. You can’t take of the spirit man. But listen to this, everything,
everything, Larry, that God has for you, when you are born-again comes inside
of you!
LARRY: Yes.
SANDRA: All of the power, all of the healing power of
God moves in you when you are born-again! It doesn’t come in pieces. All of it
comes.
LARRY: That’s true.
SANDRA: So you’ve got all of the healing power, here
you are sick as a dog, your body, your body which is your house is sick, yet
inside of you your spirit man, you’ve got all the healing power of God.
LARRY: Yes.
SANDRA: And then the trouble is, what I’d call the
filter, is your mind, your will, your emotion which is your soul.
LARRY: Wow. Wow.
SANDRA: So you have to renew your thinking so that
you can think like your spirit man thinks which thinks like God.
LARRY: Wow.
SANDRA: So that you can think well my spirit says I’m
healed. My spirit says that by the stripes I’m healed. My spirit says that God
said in His Word. And I’ve got to get past all of this paperwork, all of TV,
all of Internet, all that wrong teachings in order to get that information
through my thinking to get it to my body!
LARRY: Yeah. Well and it’s so interesting cause as
you’re sharing that I think of so many people who are watching this who are
like okay, I actually prayed for healing. I prayed. I went through this
declaration and this confession and this prayer and I’ve seen people get healed
miraculously.
SANDRA: Right.
LARRY: Instantaneously.
SANDRA: Right.
LARRY: Why isn’t it not coming to me and the problem
is… and I want to encourage you who are watching right now listen, if you’ve
prayed for a healing, if you’ve prayed for a breakthrough in your health do not
give up!
SANDRA: Oh, no.
LARRY: Do not give up! Because it’s one of those
things just like Jesus prayed for somebody twice. This is the Son of God
praying for a man twice. Like Dr. Kennedy used the example as well, when did
the…when did the boy begin to amend. I do believe there are practical things
that you can do in the waiting, while you wait for a full healing to manifest
that will actually help you renew your mind and position yourself for that
breakthrough. But here’s my word to you. Don’t give up! Don’t give up! And
please do not change your theology when you don’t see results! Don’t change
your theology about who God is. The same yesterday, today and forever! If you
prayed for a miracle or a healing and you haven’t seen it happen. So Dr.
Kennedy what do you do? I mean this is amazing. While we were talking about
this before the interview you have this literally right in your Bible.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just write it down so I
can just share it with people. The very first thing to do? Release your faith!
How? With your mouth. How? Praising God!
LARRY: That’s good.
SANDRA: All right let me say it. If I were going to
give you something and I said Hey! After the show’s over I’m going to giver
you, umm, I’m going to give you a set of car keys. What would you be doing?
Thanking me now!
LARRY: Yes I would. Oooh, that’s good.
SANDRA: You would thank me.
LARRY: Yes.
SANDRA: But why? Because you think I’m a woman of
integrity.
LARRY: Yeah. Yeah.
SANDRA: You say she’s not going to lie to me. I mean
why would she lie to me so you start thanking me before you had it!
LARRY: Mmm!
SANDRA: Now that’s the key to healing! You thank Him!
He said I sent my Word and healed you so while you’re waiting for the
manifestation Lord I am so thankful! Thank You that You healed me! I praise
You! I give you all glory! I give you all praise! I thank You that I’m healed!
I thank You, Father, that You’re not a man that You should lie! I thank You
that You do every single thing that You say You’d do! I just praise You! For
instance here’s something else that you could do. Have a thankful heart. Be confident.
LARRY: Yes.
SID: Sid Roth with “Something More”, and Dr. David Herzog. And David, people’s lives are being literally transformed when they get your revelation on the Courts of Heaven. explain where did – tell me h-how you got this. What were the circumstances?
DAVID:
Yeah, I was in this situation where the first time it happened, I was in a
meeting, and miracles were happening. And this woman was crying, and I said,
“Why are you crying? things – great
things are happening tonight!” She goes, “Well my son here, who is
setting next to me, is going to go to court Tuesday” it was like a
Thursday or a Friday night, –
SID:
Um.
DAVID:
“and he’s probably going to go to jail for a very long time, because he
was caught with child pornography.”
SID:
Hm.
DAVID:
Andin the State of Arizona I think he at that time you would get like 5 years
in jail per thing. And they got his computer, and he’s in big trouble. I think
he was 17 or 18, and so he was in big trouble. SO I said to the boy, “Is
that true?” He goes, “Yeah, I messed up.” I said, “Well do you
want to repent, and get saved?” “Yeah.” So he comes up; he gets
saved. Then I say to him, “Wait; um, it -let’s take it to the Court of
Heaven!” And I just thought well there’s got to be a court in – I had
never heard a teaching on it at that point. It was kind of by – the Lord just
said –
SID:
Um hm.
DAVID:
“Take it to My Court, before he goes to the earthly court; ‘… on earth
as it is in heaven.'” If we can get a heavenly verdict on it, then
hopefully we can match it with – o-on the earth! So I just went by faith, and I
said, “Okay, close your eyes”, and he closed his eyes; I said,
“Let’s go, by faith. Now imagine you see the Judge, because there is a
Judge in Heaven.”
SID:
Right.
DAVID:
“Let’s present our case, and I’ll help you , and I-I’ll come with you
.” And I said, “Now Jesus is the Lawyer, His dad is the Judge, so
it’s kind of rigged.”
SID:
[LAUGHS]
DAVID:
“So you got a good Jewish lawyer, and you got a Judge who – who’s His
Father!” And I said –
SID:
You have a good Israeli lawyer!
DAVID:
Yeah, Israeli lawyer!
SID:
[LAUGHS]
DAVID:
Israeli Jewish lawyer!
SID:
[LAUGHS]
DAVID:
And – and I said, –
[VIDEO BEGINS]
DAVID:
“So here, Father, we present this boy to you . He just got saved. He
deserves sin -“
VIDEO:
DAVID: Oh Father in Heaven,
DAVID:
I mean, “he deserves death and punishment.”
VIDEO: BOY SENTENCED TO JAIL: I want to be used of God.
DAVID:
“But because of the blood of Your servant Yeshua, Jesus, he’s been
forgiven.” [VIDEO ENDS]
DAVID:
“We ask you know, Father God, that You would take care of this court case
on Tuesday. Whatever Your will is, he is okay with it, but we want to present
it to you first.” Then I – something came to my mind, then I said,
“Wait a second! Do you have a call on your life?”, and the boy said,
“Yes I do. My mother told me since I was little I have a call to ministry,
and this and that; and that’s why the enemy’s been attacking me, and I fell
into sin.” And I go, “Oh, okay”, and I go, “Time
out!”, a-as if I was in a court case. “Time out. Let me talk to my
client”, you know.
SID:
[LAUGHS]
DAVID:
Even though Jesus is the lawyer – Yeshua.
SID:
Right.
DAVID:
I said, “What if we presented to the Judge that you want to serve God
also? You want to do your calling?”
SID:
Interesting.
DAVID:
“Maybe that can affect the court case? I don’t know.” And he goes,
“Yeah, I’ll do whatever! I-I’m happy I’m saved!” So then we go back,
and I said, “Your Honor, Judge of Heaven and Earth, he wants to be used in
ministry because he has a call on his life.” And he said, he even told me,
“Even if I go to jail, I don’t mind as long as God uses me.” So you
know it wasn’t a “get out of jail card”; he was just like, “I
just want to be right with God.”
SID:
Um hm.
DAVID:
So we presented that, and I heard the Father say – the Judge, “Forgiven,
and cleared.” And at the time, the pastor was saying, when he walked by
and he overheard it, and I-I think he mumbled something like, “Well he can
be forgiven, but he’s going to have to pay for that”, you know.
SID:
[LAUGHS]
DAVID:
And so again, which is the normal res earthly response.
SID:
Right.
DAVID:
Then he – then he came the next few nights beaming – like glowing – just so
happy. Then he goes to the court on Tuesday, and the judge and the lawyer
happen to be Christians. They took him out to talk to him, and then s before it
started, and they said, “Listen”, the opposing lawyer said,
“Listen, we have so much evidence [VIDEO BEGINS] against you , there’s no
way you can win. You ‘re going to go to jail for a long time. You want to make
sure you ‘re a Believer before you go, because you ‘ll need it.” He says,
“I already am a Believer. I just got saved.” Gave the whole
testimony; told them he doesn’t even mind if he goes; he’s fine, because he’s
saved, and God’s going to use him in jail. [VIDEO ENDS] And they were so moved
by his testimony that they threw the case out. And this happened.
SID:
That’s where you realize –
SID:
that you are on to something.
DAVID:
Exactly.
SID:
It’s you know, “there is “nothing new”; it’s – but it’s new to
our generation.
DAVID:
Exactly.
SID: I don’t know about you, but I have been feeling the presence of God, the manifest presence of His glory, on this whole show. Pastor Stovall, you talk about terms like “power in the pattern” and “now you’re in alignment.” Explain a little bit about that.
STOVALL: It was a very humbling experience in the sense I realized that I had been a ruler in a lot of areas instead of being a steward. But through all this process, I felt like I was given Jesus’ church back. My mindset changed to, “Okay, I’m a steward, Lord. I saw the kingdom.” There were just so many things. It’s things like I begin to look through a kingdom filter. Now, obviously, it’s Friday, which is the Sabbath. It was Friday night. It was also Passover, so it’s the double Sabbath. But then it’s almost like I had this kingdom filter. Then I begin to see, “Well, wait, Sabbath was way before the Abrahamic covenant. It’s back here in Genesis 2. The Sabbath was the first day after Creation. There’s all of God’s family, Heaven and Earth, at the Father’s table in Eden.” Eden was the Bet Av, the Father’s house.
STOVALL: Here’s the heavenly and earthly family together at His table. That whole language of Shabbat Shalom, this is what it’s all about. This is how everything should be. This is wholeness. Yes, you’re going to subdue the Earth and all that, but nothing is more important than this. I would say I saw this kingdom where the Jewish people have carried them in the context of covenant. But I began to see these things like, “Wait, these are kingdom. I’m not authorized as a steward of the ministry to substitute things that are clearly a kingdom pattern. I’m just not authorized to do that.”
SID: You know, every time you open your mouth, you are unpacking revelation that has been hidden from the church for 2000 years, but let me remind you to get your communion elements ready. In our ISN segment as we take communion together, we will align ourselves with Heaven and Heaven will invade our studio or wherever you’re watching us. We’ll also have more from Paul Wilbur, so stay with us.
JAMIE: What are they talking about? We are getting our eyes on Jesus! Jesus just healed them of cancer! Jesus just healed them of a broken bone! Jesus just – I mean what are we talking about when we say get our eyes back on Jesus? I think what we’re doing is we’re trying to say well we’ll keep our eyes on the head because we don’t want His hands, we just want His face. But how many of you know that Jesus doesn’t just show up with His face? I don’t want just Jesus’s face, I want His whole body.
AUDIENCE: Yes!
JAMIE: I want everything! I want His hands and His feet! Have you ever looked in the Book of Revelation at the feet of Jesus? I want His feet! I want every area of Jesus, every part of Him. And so how do we do that? I believe eyes to see. God wants to give your eyes to see so that what’s going on in your life you can seize the moments and take them, turning them from a moment to momentum!
AUDIENCE: Yes!
JAMIE: Here’s a major key. Most of us miss our prophetic moments because we’re looking for a moment! Someone comes to us and tells us you’re going to heal the sick and we’re looking for this moment. It’s amazing. We’re looking for it because that’s what we do! We want physical evidence that a spiritual reality is coming alive in our life! But God’s not just looking for a moment. He’s looking for a MINDSET! He wants to shift our mindset to see in the supernatural. He wants to shift our mindset from just looking at things as the way we do to looking at things as the way He does! How do we do that? No longer am I just going to heal someone, I have become a healer in the name of Jesus!
AUDIENCE: Yes.
JAMIE: I am a miracle worker in the name of Jesus!
AUDIENCE: Yes.
JAMIE: Listen! Not of my power but as Paul says “I work with all the power that works in me.” How do I work with that power? I become a voice for God! And so He wants to bring a mindset shift. He wants to shift our mindset so that we see the world differently. And many of you are going to start to see the things that are hidden in plain sight! Supernatural moments! Because if we could seize them they will change everything! You know the word in the Greek for “moment” is “atomos.” It’s the word where we get the word “atom.” And our moments are so small they could pass us by. They’re like little tiny atoms but if we could seize them they’ll become atomic and explosive! There’s miracle moments, supernatural moments in your day every single day! The thing is we’ve got to be sensitive, learn to be sensitive to these moments and not be afraid to spiritualize what God calls holy! We’re trained so much to de-spiritualize things but Jesus operated out of a different spirit. Let’s look at this. Mark 8: Jesus, He breaks open the heavens and He multiplies loaves and fish. I would have loved to have been there. I want to be in a moment like that! I don’t know what it is but we’ve seen miracle moments where God multiplies bread, food. And I’ve had a hard time in those moments because I could never really you know get down to the moment that it happens. I know it happened afterward, but it’s never I can never sit there and watch it happening. Somebody in here ever been in a moment like that? I say to my wife we don’t have enough food. My wife is smart. She says “don’t say that! There’s always enough!” And so I just begin to pray. I speak “God! Multiply the chicken! Multiply it! I declare it! You know why we don’t see the multiplication of food in church? Because there’s signs on the doors that say “no food allowed in the sanctuary!”
AUDIENCE: [LAUGHING]
JAMIE: We have to have it to multiply it!
AUDIENCE: Right!
JAMIE: Bring it! And so I was in a meeting one time and I watched and looked over and there was a woman and she was eating. She was suspicious, looked kind of huddled over and I realized she was eating fried chicken!
AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]
JAMIE: It said “no food in service” and she was over there [eating sounds] turning it like it was corn on the cob and I thought to give me some!
AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]
JAMIE: Give me some! But here Jesus is. He’s with His disciples and they’re about to see a miracle. Say “miracle!”
AUDIENCE: Miracle!