Sid Roth on January 3rd, 2017

SID: I know you’re on the edge of your seat. What did Jesus say is the most supernatural gift that every believer can enter into, but most of his children don’t realize how important it is and don’t do it enough? What did he tell you?

KEVIN: He told me that beyond anything else you could do on this earth, it would be the only thing that he would want you to do is yield to the spirit of God, and that that would bring forth that utterance which they call speaking in tongues. He said, “If you will pray in the spirit and bring out the depths and the mysteries of God out into this realm,” that the spiritual realm would become so close to me that I’d begin to operate in the spiritual realm here on earth.

SID: The council room in heaven. Explain that to me.

KEVIN: I was surprised at how intricate and organized heaven is, and I was really intrigued by God’s order. He has a government. It’s called the Kingdom of God. He has books that are written about every individual person and they are available to the angels that are assigned to each person. Those angels look at those books. They’re briefed. Decisions are made on who would influence of group of people, and those angels go to work in bringing the truth to those people and helping them to get other people involved and walking in the spirit with God.

SID: What you explain to me is that we all have free will, but they work out a strategy in heaven to get you in the right place, at the right time, doing the right thing, and it’s got a lot to do with us yielding. How do you understand that?

KEVIN: I found that the most serious asset or liability that we have is our own will. I know that God loves us, but he has to get that across to us. We have to have revelation from the spirit of God, and many people don’t have the revelation of God’s love and his concern for us or his plan for us, but these books are full of pages that Jesus said some of them will never be opened, because people don’t yield to the spirit and they don’t give their will over. There is a walking in the spirit that requires you to hand your life over and carry your own cross, and Jesus wanted everyone to know this, that there is power available, but it’s going to be by you losing and him gaining you.

SID: Is Jesus sad that most believers have all these wonderful, amazing exploits that God has for them, and it’s all written, and he’s doing everything he can to get you to do it, and you’re not doing it. I bet he’s pretty sad over that.

KEVIN: Yes. Even at one point I remember this, he had an individual, I don’t know who it was, but he had them stand in as an example. He reached out his hand and this yellow, beautiful gold substance came out of his hand, and he prayed over the person. It bounced off of them and bounced back onto him and us, and he turned to me and he had tears in his eyes and he said, “See, they won’t let me bless them.”

KEVIN: He said, “You’ve got to teach people to receive from me. I want to bless them.” I want to bless them.

SID: How do we receive from him?

KEVIN: It’s the turning over of your will to the Almighty God. The revelation of Jesus Christ has to do with the fact that he actually stood on a spot … I’ve stood on that spot. I saw that spot he stood on and he created the universe. He is in command. He is not weak. He’s not worried. He’s not concerned. He didn’t even ask me for my opinion on anything the whole time.

SID: Really?  Tell me about, and this is so amazing, just a little bit of the revelations that he showed you how powerful prayer is.

KEVIN: Instantly he said, “I’m going to show you how powerful your prayers are, Kevin,” and he took me and we went to a place in the United States that I recognized as New Mexico, and I was standing on this mountain right above the missile range out there, the test facility. I recognized it, because I fly over it a lot. As we were standing there, he said, “Start praying, Kevin, in the spirit.”

KEVIN: I yielded and started praying in the spirit, and as I did, he pointed and he said, “Now watch.”

KEVIN: And I saw the explosion. It looked like the atomic bomb detonation that had gone off in the forties. It started to explode and this big plume went straight up into the air and it was all red and powerful, and the Lord said, “Most Christians are looking for the spectacular. They look at this cloud, but the supernatural is the shock wave that’s traveling along the ground.”

KEVIN: I saw this shock wave go out about thirty miles, and it was knocking everything over, and he said, “See, Kevin, when you pray, your prayers are effective, and it’s moving mountains out of the way and you should never give up. You should always pray.”

SID: Why do people give up so easily?

KEVIN: I realize that people were looking for a sign of some sort, a manifestation that it was working. I, also, knew that there was demonic activity that would stop people from praying. They would actually feel depressed and it wouldn’t even be them. They would have chemical imbalances in their body, but it was from the outside, and they were being influenced to think that there was a problem and they would stop praying. There were things that would happen that would stop them from praying, and the Lord said, “You should never give up praying, because you will get your answer.”

SID: Probably, to me anyway, one of the most exciting things that Kevin came back with is what the Bible says, “You shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire.” Most believers haven’t received this fire. Do you realize that when you have this fire the devil can’t come near you.

KEVIN: Amen.

SID: He’s afraid of you. Is there anyone, anyone that wants this fire?

KEVIN: Amen.

SID: We’ll be right back.

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Sid Roth on December 20th, 2016


SID: I have so much I need to ask Richard. Richard, you told me a great revelation open to you when one day you were reading Deuteronomy and you saw the whole history of the Jewish people all through the last days. Tell me about that.

RICHARD: Well it’s pretty amazing. The seed of Bible prophecy, of all Bible prophecy is in the Book of Deuteronomy. Christians don’t read that, so they miss it. So I was studying.

SID: Why do Christians not read the Old Testament? Forget Deuteronomy, just the whole Old Testament.

RICHARD: Well they’re kind of told that Jesus did away with all that and we don’t need all that anymore, and that was Jewish stuff. No, it’s Jesus stuff. These are Jesus’ festivals. The feasts are Jesus’ festivals. Hallelujah. Amen.

SID: Okay. So you found ten points in Deuteronomy. Explain that.

RICHARD: Well in Deuteronomy, Moses is giving the sermon and it’s amazing, Sid. He gave the whole future of the Jewish people from then until the Messiah comes, and this is before they were even a nation, before they ever got into the land. So I’m reading this stuff, and my goodness, this sounds familiar. This sounds like world history. So I’m going to check out did the prophets have anything to say about this. Well of course they did. They filled in details. Then I study world history to see does this line up in any way. And of those ten points, everything has happened in world history exactly like Moses said.

SID: So there were ten points that take you all to the return of Jesus.

RICHARD: Oh, absolutely.

SID: Of the ten points, where are we today?

RICHARD: Well I thought you might ask that. We’re at point seven and a half.

SID: Seven and a half.

RICHARD: Seven and a half.

SID: What is that point?

RICHARD: Well point seven was the Jewish people would return to their ancient land. And so about half of the Jewish people that we know of are in Israel, about six or seven million, and the other seven million or so that we know of are scattered still among the nations. That’s why I say seven and a half.

SID: Okay. We’re at between seven and eight, and if you’ve been reading the newspapers lately, look what’s happening with the anti-Semitism in Europe. I mean, whole groups of Jews in France that never thought they’d ever go to Israel are now living in Israel. They have a whole village that’s French-speaking. So we’re about ready to see the eighth thing happen. What is the eighth?

RICHARD: Well the Jewish sages from all times and scholars have always said that as we get close to the coming of Messiah it will be perilous times, times of chaos.

SID: That sounds like Jesus.

RICHARD: Well he’s a Jewish teacher and rabbi. Moses says when you are in tribulation in the latter days. He qualifies it. He tells us when, so Jewish people have always believed perilous times. So when this Orthodox Jew, Saul of Tarsus, the Apostle Paul, wrote perilous times, he wasn’t writing some kind of Christian statement. He was writing what had always been part of their understanding. And so God calls the Christian people to come alongside and stand with the Jewish people against anti-Semitism and support them, because Christians owe everything that’s dear to us spiritually to the Jewish people.

SID: That’s what Romans 11 says. Now very briefly, take me through some of the last God feasts, feasts of trumpets: Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Sukkot.

RICHARD: Okay. Well let’s clarify. There’s three major feast seasons: Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles. And there are seven individual feasts within those three feast seasons. Jesus historically did the first two [seasons] to the T and the letter, every jot and tittle. If he got the first two right, what do you think he’s going to get number three? The Feast Tabernacles is the End Time feast. In the Bible it says, “The natural leads to the spiritual.” So in the natural, the Feast of Tabernacles is the end of the agricultural season when all the big harvest has been done. So looking at it spiritually, the Feast of Tabernacles is the great harvest of souls at the end of the age before Messiah comes. We’re going to soon see the greatest explosion on the face of the earth, spiritual explosion, that the world has ever seen.

SID: But you actually from the seventh, what is the seventh trumpet?

RICHARD: Well, of course in the Book of Revelation the seven seals, the seventh seal is the seven trumpets, and the seventh trumpet is the seven vial or bowl judgments. So the seventh trumpet is the last trump.

SID: That makes sense.

RICHARD: I think it’s going to be on the Feast of Trumpets.

SID: Well that sure makes sense. You said something. God is showing you there is going to be a move of God’s spirit that’s about ready to happen now. Describe what God is showing you.

RICHARD: Well the Glory of God is going to cover the earth as the waters cover the sea up to a point before Messiah comes. But what we’re going to see is a moving away from the proclamation of the Gospel of Salvation, which has kind of been the western focus, to the Gospel of the Kingdom. Now if you read in the New Testament, Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom, and every time he did there were signs and wonders that followed. So as we move from the Gospel of Salvation to the Gospel of the Kingdom, the signs and wonders we’ve all desperately longed for are going to explode on the face of the earth. Hallelujah.

SID: All right, I can just tell you this, this is the clearest presentation that I’ve studied, of Dr. Booker, of the End Times. But what is more important is are you going to be proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom? You have to make Jesus your king, not just our savior. That’s a western idea. You have to make Jesus your king. Think about it. Do it.

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Sid Roth on December 13th, 2016


SID: All right, now I have a lot of friends, of course being Jewish that celebrate the Jewish feasts. But Richard said the Jewish feasts are not just the Jewish feasts, they’re the biblical feasts. So why today is it so important for a Christian to celebrate and be, and understand these feasts?

RICHARD: Well you can’t understand the Bible without doing this, Sid. First of all, these are not the feasts of the Jews, as you said. These are the feasts of the Lord. It says it very clearly in the Bible: “For all of God’s covenant people, for all times to observe and celebrate.”

SID: Actually in Leviticus it says, God says, “These are MY feasts.” That’s why he said the feasts of the Lord.

RICHARD: Now Jesus was the reality of these pictures. He was the person the pictures were pointing to. So he was crucified at Passover. He was buried at unleavened bread. He was resurrected at first fruits. He sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, Shavuot.

SID: And by the way, that’s, he’s just pointed out the history of the First Coming of Jesus. So if you were a Jewish person and you understood the feasts, not with the rabbinic understanding of 2000 years ago, but the biblical understanding, you would not have missed Jesus’ First Coming. Richard, this is so precise. When you, when this first dawned on you, what happened to you?

RICHARD: I went crazy in the Spirit. The zeal of the Lord consumed me.

SID: Well you were talking about Passover. Passover comes from what Christians call the Last Supper, Communion.


SID: And they actually had the first communion where Jesus explained it and you said more miracles happen when believers take communion than almost any other time. Why is that?

RICHARD: Because the idea of being a true believer is that you are, you have union with God. The Holy Spirit of God comes to live inside you and the best graphic illustration of that, visually, is when you’re taking communion. Come-U-nion. I’m in you, you’re in me. The two of us have become one. Now most communion services kind of border on funeral services. I’m being nice here. But the Lord said this is the time you are to celebrate the blood covenant union that you have with me.

SID: Tell me one person that while they were celebrating this after hearing your revelation, God healed?

RICHARD: Well there was a lady in Florida, I remember, and she was a godly little Pentecostal lady, and this might blow people’s theologies, but it is what it is, and she had had heart problems for years, Sid. And during this teaching, while she’s taking the cup and while she’s taking the bread, this is why I encourage people to expect a miracle when you take the cup and bread. She heard a noise insider her, a voice inside her and she thought it was the Lord giving her a new prayer language. But as this voice got louder she could tell it was not the Spirit of God’s voice. It was an ugly voice. And so what happened was while she was taking the cup and the bread, this spirit had been lodged in the physical organ of her heart for years, I suppose. And when she took the cup and the bread she felt this spirit come out of her heart, up through her neck and out of her vocal chords, out of her mouth. She was instantly healed and delivered by taking the bread and the cup. Hallelujah.

SID: The Book of Revelation said the devil is overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony. Now when we come back, if the first feasts were fulfilled so specifically for the First Coming of Jesus, I want to see if there is tribulation, where the rapture is. I mean, look at all these different views. He spent 40 years studying it, had it downloaded from God. I want to hear what God has shown him. Do you?

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Sid Roth on December 6th, 2016


SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, some 40 years ago, was on a fast track in his career and all of a sudden God invaded his living room, flattened him to the floor and instantly downloaded in picture form the stories of the Bible as if he was there. And he said that very few of the End Time views of what’s going to happen in the last days are correct because they don’t understand the Jew and Israel, and once you do it’s simple. I protest. Why do I protest? Because Dr. Richard Booker had such a supernatural experience with God. Richard walked down the aisle as a Southern Baptist, but then got enmeshed in his career, Occidental Petroleum. You were a top executive. You were on a fast track and all of a sudden almost out of the blue he gets an insatiable hunger. Now remember, all he knows is he walked down the aisle and he believes the Gospel, but that’s on the side burner. And all of a sudden he’s hungry for God. So tell me about the day that God answered that hunger.

RICHARD: You know Sid, God is so wonderful and I didn’t have a Bible, but I was supposed to, I was invited to go to a Bible study by my business friends, so I had to go to something called a Christian bookstore and get a Bible. And I came home, and I started reading Leviticus. Doesn’t everybody?

SID: That’s enough to stop you right in the tracks.

RICHARD: But you know, the devil keeps people out of Leviticus because that’s the motherlode of the Gospel in the First Testament. But anyway, I started reading Leviticus. Then I started studying it. I’m educated. I know how to study. But then I got one of those big concordances, you know. And the Bible says if you seek God with your whole heart you’ll find him. You’re gonna run into him sooner or later. So one day in 1974, as I was studying Leviticus I had this encounter with God where it was like I was on the Emmaus road where Jesus appeared to two of his disciples.

Man 1: What’s up? What are you discussing?

Man 2: You must be the only person in Jerusalem who hasn’t heard about the things that happened there the last few days.

Man 3: What things?

Man 1 The things that happened to Jesus of Nazareth. He was a prophet.  He did powerful miracles.

RICHARD: It’s like the Holy Spirit let me be a third disciple to hear what Jesus said.

Man: As it is written by Moses and all of the prophets, Moses was once told that there would be a greater prophet than him, and I am the prophet.

RICHARD: And God instantly and dramatically downloaded in a heaven second, whatever that is, the entire Bible into my core being. And we have 66 books in our Bible, so Sid, it was like 66 bombs going off inside me. I literally thought I would die. I literally hid under my desk. You know how humans do silly things.

SID: Right.

RICHARD: God can’t find me there, you know. I hid under my…

SID: Now your wife had the same background as you.

RICHARD: Absolutely.

SID: And what did she think when she saw you flat on the floor? I understand you couldn’t even walk without, except you could walk on all fours, crawling.

RICHARD: I did hide under my desk and I begged God not to show me anymore. I literally thought I would explode. The human being can’t take a whole lot of the Creator, you know. Well, but I couldn’t walk for a while. I pulled myself along on the carpet trying to get to the couch with every ounce of energy I could get and pulled myself up on the couch, rolled up there and just would lay there for hours until the weight of the Glory of God would lift. And John the Baptist said that Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. Sid, my hands were on fire and they were burning. They were hot. Well I was a Baptist. I didn’t know what to do. I put, this is not supposed to happen, you know, but it happened to me. So I put my hands under the faucet thinking the water would cool my hands. It didn’t help a bit. The fire was on the inside. This changed my life dramatically, Sid, when the whole Bible, people don’t know that the Bible is a picture book and all of the Hebrew Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament, is just a picture of a person. When you get a puzzle the first thing you look at is the picture and that tells you what it’s supposed to look like.

SID: Even seeing the picture I have a hard time putting a thousand pieces together.

RICHARD: Exactly. So often as Christians we read these stories maybe in the Bible or we maybe went to Sunday school and heard little stories, but it doesn’t really connect. They don’t grasp. I didn’t grasp that the Bible, the Hebrew Bible, what we call the Old Testament, Christians, it’s a picture of a person, and every part of the Hebrew Bible is a little puzzle that when you put it all together it’s a picture of the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth.

SID: You have spent the last 40 years after this download studying keys that most Christians don’t study. You have studied the Jewish culture, the nation Israel, their geography, their geology, their archeology. Why was this so important to study the Jew in Israel?

RICHARD: Because Sid, what we have is a Bible that’s a Middle Eastern book. We live in the western world here and we’re trying to understand the Bible as if it was a western theological seminary book. Well Jesus was and is, and always will be a Jew. He taught in his culture using Jewish idioms and figures of speech.

SID: These were idioms that you can’t take literally because they meant something different in the eastern culture than they do in the western. But what he found was there was a total understanding of the scenario and sequence of events of the End Times that was really different than what most people teach. And he also found something about the biblical feasts, and he found the time to get the most miracles. We’ll be right back.

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Sid Roth on November 15th, 2016


Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Sandra Kennedy I’m speaking to her at her headquarters in Augusta, Georgia the Whole Life Ministries.  And I think it’s wonderful when someone at a young age knows their destiny before God.  Sandra as a child God spoke to you of about your destiny tell me about that.

Sandra: Yeah I was about 6 years old Sid I heard a voice it sounded to me like an audible voice it said “One day I’m going to use you in healing.” And of course you have heard me say in times gone by that I’ll even pray over the animals on the farm right there in Georgia a very small farm.  I’d pray over the animals and always believed in healing even though I’d never really heard any teaching on healing but I just believe in my heart you know that healing belonged to us today and that God was still in the healing business.

Sid: Out of curiosity Sandra after all of the years have you kept your childlike faith?

Sandra: Yes I have thank God.

Sid: That’s the key isn’t it?

Sandra: That’s the key.

Sid: Now when you were on an airplane and your mother was dying from cancer and again God spoke to you what did he say?

Sandra: Well  I wasn’t Spirit-filled but as a Southern Baptist girl working for a Southern Baptist Convention flying home and had gotten a call that she wouldn’t make it through the weekend and she was sent home to die and was in a coma.  And of course it was years ago and people did that I heard what sounded to me like an audible voice.

Sid: Now exactly what was wrong with your mom?

Sandra: She had cancer.

Sid: Do you know what kind?

Sandra: I don’t remember what kind I just know that she had been at the Medical College of Georgia and they had sent her home at the last stages of cancer.  And this was again almost 30 years ago.

Sid: Okay.

Sandra: And had sent her home to die and she was in a semi-type coma and when I when I arrived home as a matter of fact she didn’t know I was there. But any way on the plane I heard this voice say “Tell your mother the Lord’s Prayer.” And this is part of the Lord’s prayer I heard quoted “Our Father which aren’t in heaven hallowed it be Thy name Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven; and tell her there is no sickness in heaven.”  I heard that 3 times Sid and it so shocked me I didn’t really know how to handle it but I had led my sister my oldest sister to the Lord 3 months prior to this. And I said to the Lord “Tell somebody else about this too.” Because I knew in the scripture that it said “Out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses a thing is established so I said “Tell somebody else.”  And so when I got home I arrived on a Friday they said that she would not live through the weekend and my sister immediately called me and said that she had had a dream and she said in the dream the Lord had said “Tell your mother the Lord’s prayer ‘Our Father who aren’t in heaven hallow it be Thy name Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.’” There is no sickness in heaven from that we were just 2 girls that didn’t know much except our mother was dying and we believed from God. And we continued to praise His name and we just went and sat by her bed and literally said nothing but the Lord’s prayer over and over quoted what we had heard.

Sid: How long did you do that?

Sandra: We did it for about 5 hours.

Sid: That’s a long time!

Sandra: Well she was in a coma and it was for at least an hour or 2 it appeared that she heard nothing but we kept doing it.  I’d do it for awhile and my sister would do it for awhile we just kept doing it, we kept doing it, we kept doing it. And then slowly but surely she would bat her eyes around and make some movement and as a result of this she popped out of that semi-coma type state. Then we just kept saying we didn’t have anything else to say we just did all we knew to do. And of course now I know much better I understand now the Bible teaches in Proverbs 4:20 to 4:22 “Incline your ear unto His sayings they are life unto those that found them and health like medicine to all of their flesh.” And so the word is power the word has enough power in itself to bring forth what it proclaims.  And so I didn’t know all of that then I just knew that I kept saying, kept saying just saying and finally she became totally alert and then we went and did something that I had never seen done I’d read in the Bible.  I had marked my Bible totally was in blue with everything pertaining to healing.  And Sid if you were to do that you’d be amazed how many blue marks you’d have in your Bible.

Sid: It’s amazing to you know someone made this statement to me once they said “If you had never heard man’s doctrine on healing and on miracles and you just read the New Testament and if for the first time in your life and someone walked up to you and said “Healing wasn’t for today” you’d think they were nuts.

Sandra: Absolutely.

Sid: It takes a lot of help to get confused in that area.

Sandra: It really does a lot of false teaching.

Sid: So tell me what you did next with your mom.

Sandra: Well the next thing we did was anoint her with oil because I had read that scripture about anointing with oil.  And remember we’re Southern Baptist girls we’d never heard we were from a little baby town in Georgia.  We had never heard one single teaching on healing.  I was a seminary graduate at this time and I was taught at seminary that healing and signs and wonders was not for today.

Sid: And I might add you were the first woman in the nation to be ordained by the Southern Baptist in the United States.

Sandra: But I still was taught totally the opposite of what I was doing and so I…but I just believed that God is bigger than all of this so I kept quoting that and it was funny because God’s sense of humor is so outstanding.  We couldn’t find any oil and I didn’t know what kind of oil the Bible said “Anoint them with oil.” So I couldn’t find any so we found a can of Crisco shortening and (Haha.)

Sid: Did you melt it?

Sandra: No.

Sid: (Laughing)

Sandra: (Laughing) we did not melt it but we smeared that woman up we decided that a little dab will do it we could imagine what a whole can would do.

Sid: Oh no (Laughing.)

Sandra: We greased that lady up and we were doing it sincerely you know I mean we were childlike faith we were doing this sincerely we didn’t know what to do we couldn’t decide where we’re supposed to put it because it doesn’t say and we didn’t know where to put it. So we decided to just put it everywhere so we put it all over her and just prayed. And when we prayed we still prayed the same thing “Our Father which art in heaven hallow it be Thy name Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.”  Mama there is no sickness in heaven and she popped out of that I mean instantaneously was healed.  I mean she jumped up out of that seat as someone had shot here with vitamins or something I mean she jumped up. I mean this woman has been in a coma!

Sid: I can imagine there must have been some rejoicing in your household.

Sandra: We had a…it was a…and she lived 28 years after that 28 years and never ever had any kind of reoccurrence of that and when she died she was not sick just died an old lady and went home to be with the Lord.

Sid: Do you believe that that’s God’s best for every one of His children?

Sandra: Oh I do, I do I believe that healing really does belong to us.  And I mean don’t misunderstand me now I believe in the medical profession I thank God for the medical profession. As a matter of fact as a result of the kind of healings that we have seen here in Augusta I have had an opportunity to go on 3 different occasions the Medical College of Georgia is here in Augusta and I’ve had on 3 different occasions, or maybe it’s 4, opportunities to go and teach medical students another side of healing at their request.

Sid: You’re telling me that a medical college you’re teaching about healing in the atonement!

Sandra: Yes I am.  I’m taking the word of God at their request and I’m coming in and teaching another side of healing taking the the Bible and of course people get healed the same way you get saved through a faith act.  If you have faith I hear a lot of people say “Well I don’t know if I have enough faith to be healed.”  If you have enough faith to be saved you certainly have enough faith to be healed because getting saved is the most outstanding thing on the face of this earth.

Sid: Now you’re a bit of a maverick because not only were you the first woman ordained by the Southern Baptist you caused a lot of trouble when you were in seminary because of this word that you had from God that you were called to pray for the sick.  What happened in the seminary?

Sandra: Well when I went, and I still wasn’t Spirit filled, but after when I had an experience with God I’d go back to the seminary I have several degrees from the seminary Southwestern Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas.  I went back to the seminary and after this event happened with my mother I went back to the seminary and when people got sick I’d start praying for them in the dorm.  And people started getting healed and I mean all kinds of things just toothaches, belly aches, leg aches, headaches anything that was happen with my you know fellow students I would pray for them.  And people started getting healed. When I came under a lot of criticism for what I was doing as a matter of fact I had to move out of the dorm and go live off campus.

Sid: Isn’t that amazing?

Sandra: Yes it is amazing (Laughing.)

Sid: I mean how man with a little tradition and a little demonic managed to get so far removed from the pure of simple truth of God’s word.  Tell me about how you were baptized in the Holy Spirit.

Sandra: Well that was a miraculous thing that happened Sid I actually had gone down to the Christian Retreat Center down in Bradenton, Florida.

Sid: Yes I’ve been there.

Sandra: That’s a wonderful place and I’d gone down there for a vacation type thing and was prayed for by Harold Bradeson.  And everybody in the line who was prayed for would receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit except me and I went to him and I said “What’s the deal here what’s happening?” And he looked at me and I’ll never forget it he looked at me yeah and just simply looked because we were eating lunch. And he looked up and said “You have a spirit of rejection.”  I mean I’m Baptist I didn’t even know what rejection was I had no earthly idea my mother and father had divorced when I was a small child but what is it I mean get rid of it. He did bat an eye he just looked up and said “Well in the name of Jesus be set free.” And kept on eating.

Sid: (Laughing)

Sandra: Didn’t feel anything nothing happened I did not speak in tongues and I said “Did something happen?”  He said “Yes in the name of Jesus something always happens.”  And I said “Well okay” I came home for about 2 weeks I had a traveling job I worked for the state of Georgia as a matter of fact I was a psychologist and director of Mental Health Centers and Mental Retardation Centers Regional Director in the state of Georgia and I went traveling.  And I began to cry because I didn’t receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And one day I was coming to Fort Gordon here in Augusta and I remember I glanced over at Fort Gordon and the next thing that I remember in the natural realm was sitting in front of my house in front of my garage which is 22 miles on the entrance to Fort Gordon.  And it makes such an impression on me because I don’t remember driving those 22 miles because I was instantaneously caught up to the throne room of God.

Sid: I’ll tell you what hold that thought Sandra.

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