SID: You spent long times with God pursuing him.

DONNA: Oh, I did. Every day I did.

SID: You finally found your friend, but you—

DONNA: I wanted more. I wanted that same encounter like I had when I was seven. And so I did… And I think God was using that to train me and to teach me. And I also felt that the more we hunger for him, the deeper the hunger is, the more he has to give us to fill that hunger. He satisfies the hungry. So if we’re only a little bit hungry, he only has to pour a little bit in to satisfy the hunger. But if we have an enormous hunger for him, he’s going to pour an enormous amount of his spirit and to satisfy the hunger.

SID: And as she was doing this, the presence of God started getting tangibly stronger and stronger and stronger.

DONNA: Yes. And eventually I began to recognize that I was always hearing from him, but I just didn’t recognize it was his voice. I expected to hear his voice outside me. So I got to learn that when… There’s a scripture that when Jesus was… After he had arose from the dead, he was walking down the road on the road to Emmaus and the disciples were walking with him, and they invited him to come for dinner. And he walked. During the breaking of the bread, they recognized him. And after Jesus disappeared, they said, “Weren’t our hearts burning within us when he was talking to us on the road?” And I knew the Holy Spirit was giving me a key, “This is how you’re going to recognize my voice. Your heart will burn within you. You will feel my love.”

DONNA: So I began to see that whenever I was reading scripture, the sentences that would just jump out and touched my heart was Jesus talking directly to me through the word. If I was at a church service, the pastor, the words he said that touched my heart like that was Jesus talking to me. So I began to satisfy that hunger. I wanted that personal word from God every day. I would not leave my prayer time alone with him until I heard him speak to me personally, every day. If it was two or three hours, I would stay there until I heard him tell talk to me.

SID: But as she was seeking God deeper and deeper, she started having this vistation to hell and to heaven. There was one place in hell you talk about that kind of really explains hell. It’s called the Chamber of Despair. Describe that to me.

DONNA: This was a place that people who are tormented by demons in their minds are sent to. These demons already were tormenting these people on the earth, causing them, even some people, to commit suicide, and rather than turn to Jesus for help, they didn’t. They denied Jesus, got mad at Jesus, and the enemy was able to bring them there. These people were tortured daily. While I was going to get to this place, walking down this tunnel, this avenue with Jesus, I could hear this loud clanging noise and what it sounded like, it sounded like somebody with a sledge hammer banging on chains. Bang, bang, bang, like that all the time, constantly. And so I was wondering, “What is this noise?”

DONNA: So finally we get to this chamber and I see this big clock hanging over the top of the chamber. And this clock represented to the people that they were going to be there forever. And the demons would chant to the clock. Every time the clock would chime, they would chant, “Forever, forever. You will be here. Forever you will be unloved. Unloved, unloved, forever unloved. Never, never, will you ever feel loved. Never, never will you leave here.” Things like that over and over and constantly. When one demon got tired of saying it, another one would pick up the chant. Continually these people were tortured like that.

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