Rick Joyner

Sid: People are actually getting physically healed; the presence of God is so strong, and no wonder I’m featuring this week Rick Joyner’s brand new book “The Power to Change the World.”  And although it’s a history book there are certain revelations that if you don’t capture, if you don’t understand, if you don’t move into you’re going to miss the greatest revival the world has ever seen.  It’s no accident that you’re listening to us and by the way any pain of any kind especially in necks and backs and in fingers right now if you by faith and faith is the currency of Heaven; if you will with the currency of Heaven.  Faith without a corresponding action is dead; move that part of your body you will see that that pain there’s a spine that’s being totally straightened right now in Jesus Name.  You had curvature of the spine you don’t have it now. I am so excited about Rick Joyner’s brand new book.  Now Rick why did you write this book, what was in your heart and I know that you’ve written portions of it over the years but why now?  Why are you releasing it right now?

Rick:  Well, I do believe that it is of prophetic history in the sense that the model for coming moves of God especially in America and Europe I believe we will find two of the greatest models in the Welsh Revival and in the Azusa Street Revival.

Sid: Why is it that both of these revivals were in the early 1900’s and we’ve had 2000 years and these are considered the greatest the world has ever seen?  What was so special about the early 1900’s?

Rick: Well you know as I’m sure you’re aware, I think many things parallel you know God His basic business is restoration; which includes redemption, reconciliation, restitution.  But He’s restoring, He’s going to restore the earth, Peter talked about the restoration of all things.  He’s restoring the church, He’s restored Israel, He’s restored I mean at least Israel’s is in the process of being restored like the church is.  But He’s going to restore all things Peter talked about.  I think there are many things that parallel like the beginning of Zionist movement right about the same time just you know I think it was being birth in the hearts of God’s people to retake the land of Israel. At about the same time there was a corresponding outpouring of the Holy Spirit. And you see the corresponding links I believe throughout recent history especially.

Sid: I agree, let’s talk about one of these revivals; let’s start with the Welsh Revival we’re not as knowledgeable of that as the Azusa Street.  How did that start?

Rick: Well, it started a couple young men, a few kids who wanted God more than they wanted oxygen, I mean they just were hungry for God, desperate for God and they prayed.

Sid: It’s which came first the chicken or the egg?  What made them so desperate?

Rick:   Well you know that’s a good question and I’m sure we could debate the answer. Whether God put it in their hearts or they just bombarded Heaven until He came down you know I really don’t know.  But I know if we seek Him we will find Him, if we draw near to Him He will draw near to us.  And with these kids so desperately, and most of them were children, most of them were teenagers in the Welsh Revival, they were so desperate for God He had to come; He had to meet them and He just absolutely overflowed.  It’s probably been the greatest transformation of a society ever in history.  And it did it transformed, I’ve got newspapers from the Welsh Revival…

Sid: What was the country like from a moral viewpoint before the revival?

Rick:   Well, it was almost entirely secular, there was alcoholism was in extreme in the country it was mostly coal mining country of Great Britain. It was poor, it was desperate there was violent crime everywhere.  It sounds like America even the worse parts of America in these times or some parts of other parts of the world it was just in terrible shape spiritually and all.  One of these newspapers I had they listed the year before the revival all the numbers of murders and robberies and rapes and everything else it was astonishing; then the first year the revival they had three arrests in the whole place and those were for drunkenness in public.  You know I mean like totally wiped out crime; they say police didn’t have anything to do the jails were empty.

Sid:  Tell me about this fellow Evan Roberts who was used in that revival.

Rick:  Well he was a coal miner himself who just had a desire to serve the Lord and I think he was unquestionably the leader of the Welsh Revival and the one that God used to probably the most visible leader. There were many others mostly like teenagers and even like young children.  But he was a special friend and had a very unique ability to be a host for the Holy Spirit.  He knew how to come into a meeting sometimes not do anything which was the best form of leadership just let the Holy Spirit take over.  He also knew when to get up, and when to lead, and when to teach, and when to whatever, but he was just so sensitive to the Spirit and so humble before the Lord.  And you know some of the most learned preachers of the time like G. Campbell Morgan, and General Booth, and others came to visit the Welsh Revival. Even G. Campbell Morgan who was considered the greatest theological mind of the time said he would trade every bit of his learning and pulpit abilities for just a touch of what he saw in Evan Roberts.  That’s how amazing it was.

Sid: You know I’m reading from your book page 62; where did you get this information of these personal things that happened?  But let me read this “On February 22 Evan revealed that he was not going to preach at Britain Ferry where he had an engagement.  For the entire week he remained confined to his bedroom without speaking to anyone, not even his relatives. He was staying in the house of Mr. and Mrs. Jones who faithfully turned away hundreds of people including famous preachers and newspaper men who had come from all over the world to see him.  This week of silence just as the revival was reaching an unprecedented crescendo amazed the world almost as much as the revival.  How could the leader of such a move of God completely withdraw himself just as it was peaking?  But Evan knew that he was not the source of the revival and that if the presence of the Lord was removed it would all end regardless of how hard he and the other evangelists worked.  Obedience is more important than sacrifice; Evan was willing to let the world’s most famous preachers and reporters, who were all clamoring to see him be offended rather than risk the Lord’s displeasure.”  I mean this is outrageous it’s one of the greatest revivals the world has ever seen and the leader walks out.

Rick: Yeah, it was but you know I think that was his greatest strength. His goal was to obey the Lord and you know he did care about anything as much as he did that.  He was sensitive to the Holy Spirit and he just wanted to follow the Spirit of God.

Sid: You know he put in four principals for himself, let me read these four principals the Holy Spirit showed him or the four tenets for revival; 1. I must take great care first to do all that God says, commands, and that only.  Moses lost himself here; he struck the rock.  2nd. To take every matter however insignificant to God in prayer.  Joshua lost himself here he made a covenant with the Gibeonites who pretended that they lived in a far off country while they were living close at hand. 3rd. To give obedience to the Holy Spirit to; 4th. To give all the glory to Him.  Awe, what would happen if the leaders the Christian leaders in America followed those four principals?

Rick: Well, we would probably have similar results that Evan Roberts had. That’s why I wrote that book I believe it is going to take people to return to the Lord with a full heart to their first love and obedience to Him, but they will.  And you know to me the ones that are getting that book particularly and seem to be stirred by it is the youth. Even my own kid said that was their favorite book that I had written even over “The Final Quest” or anything.

Sid: I have to believe that it’s a right book for this moment in history. So I think that the average good Christian leader in America was to walk into Evan Roberts service he would say this is totally out of order.  What do you think?

Rick: Yeah, I think a lot of the meetings they would. You know men came from all over the world who thought that they could give their wisdom and maturity and all would be a big help to the revival but as soon as they got them the anointing was so strong they shut up and sat down.

Sid: So they didn’t have to worry about saying that word isn’t from God if they got up with a false word they’d be knocked off their feet; is that what you’re saying?

Rick:   They’re saying that’s pretty much what happened during the peak of the revival that no one dared to move in the flesh.  It’s like when Solomon prayed for the temple and the glory of the Lord filled the temple the priest had to flee because of the glory of God.  And I believe all flesh has to flee in His presence. All flesh will shut up in His presence you know.  And that’s what we need more than anything else and we’re called to be the temple of the Lord.  You know if the Lord’s not in His temple what good is the temple?  And if the Lord’s in it doesn’t matter how glorious the temple is it’s not going to be the temple that get’s your attention it’s going to be the glory of the Lord.  So you know I think that this return to the temple being for the Lord; I mean what would the church look like if we built a church with one goal in mind to attract the Holy Spirit.  We didn’t care if people came or not… 

Sid: But how you going to make the mortgage payment?  I’ll tell you what we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.

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