Sid:  That middle wall its down, Jews are coming to the Lord, Muslims are coming to the Lord, and we are about ready to see the greatest army the world has ever seen, the Body of Messiah, the One New Man.  Stand up and walk in the authority that God has given us.  But it’s important to understand the things of the Spirit and that’s what I mentor you in and equip you for.  But if you don’t understand Bible prophecy, then why are you being equipped with all of this power?  You don’t have a track to run on and if you understand Bible prophecy and you don’t understand the things of the Spirit you are not going to be able to accomplish all that God had for you.  And that’s why my guest is Walid Shoebat and I can see why God chose him to give him understanding to the mysteries of end times based on the Bible because your whole paradigm is wrong.   And one of the reasons your paradigm is wrong is you are listening to things in the political arena rather than looking at the word of God and those that are looking at the word of God have the wrong paradigm.  For instance, in the United States of America President Bush coined the phrase that “Islam is a peace loving religion.”  And then President Obama piggybacked on that “Islam is a peace loving religion.”  Well my guest, Walid Shoebat was born in Bethlehem; he was raised to be a Muslim terrorist.  He had an encounter with Jesus through the Bible and he’s never been the same since.  So Walid, if you could sit eyeball to eyeball with President Obama discussing the subject, “Islam is a peace loving religion,” what would you say to him?

Walid:  Well, the peaceful Mohammed the Prophet but of Islam executed the Jews abundant in Saudi Arabia?  Was it peaceful when Herod and Waleed conquered Persia, chopped so many heads off in the ravine in which the blood coagulated and he swore to kill thousand upon thousands of Persians?  Was it peaceful when—–invaded Spain and he cooked Christians in the Ottoman Empire, was it peaceful when Sudan masquerd over a million Christians, was it peaceful when the —empower executed hundreds of thousands of Christians, the Christians of Smyrna?  And the Armenian Christians?  This is the ludicrous remark.

Sid:  But wait a second Walid, in the Koran there are a lot of passages about Islam as peace loving. 

Walid:  Well, Shalom Aleichem the greeting in Islamic method when you day Shalom Aleichem, you cannot say Shalom Aleichem.   Muslim number one we have to understand this; the Islamic Sharia.   Number two, the term peace in Islam is already coined in Islam.  The world lives in two spheres, the peace of Islam and the peace in the sphere of Shalom, peace.  But the sphere of peace in Islam is regarding the nations that will be forced into Islam to become in the house of peace.

Sid:  So we can be peaceful if we bow to Islam, but if we don’t what’s going to happen to us?

Walid:  That is correct, I mean what’s going to happen is that you will be forced to bow towards Mecca or lose your head.

Sid:  But, let’s take America, there are many Moslems.  They are educated, they’re nice, there our neighbors, they wouldn’t think of strapping a suicide bomb to themselves, they’re peace loving.

Walid:  Well, if you asked that Muslim would you denounce Sharia what would they say?  In other words, it’s not only the explosive act that determines whether a person is peaceful or not, it’s their support act, it is rare to find a Muslim that would say I would denounce Sharia.  This is in fact impossibility.

Sid:  Okay, if they do not denounce Sharia and Sharia law came to America, what would America be like?

Walid:  Well, those so called peaceful Muslim will become fully with —- to Sharia.  There would be punishments which is called Ad dud in Islam.  Basically woman will have half their rights of a man; the testimony in the court of law is considered half the testimony of a male counterpart.

Sid:  And again, by Sharia law, we’re talking about law as influenced by the Koran, but go ahead.

Walid:  Absolutely, in other words Islam has no regards for woman in fact this is what shook me when I read the Bible in Genesis, I will put enmity between you (the devil) and the woman, boy that opened my eyes.  And when I got to Daniel chapter eleven it says very clearly, “He will not honor the desire of woman, he does not give woman their wants and their needs that is not say he doesn’t desire woman that means he’s homosexual as many westerners think.  No, he doesn’t honor woman because the son of perdition, the antichrist is like the father of lies, no different.  He will also hate woman, this gives us a different concept about the antichrist, even the concept of him being an atheist is ludicrous because if you look at Daniel 11 he honors a god of war and he advances this god which the Bible tells us is a foreign god.

Sid:  So, if I understand what you are saying is there are Muslim in America that are peace loving, but once they would not deny the Islamic law the Sharia law, and once that is instituted then they are going to be in agreement with some of these things.  Now, what does Koran say about Jews and Christians?

Walid:  Well, it’s very clear in the Koran, it says not to trust the Jews or the Christians, do not make friends with the Jews or the Christians and it has a litany of statements about the Jews converting to monkeys and pigs and so on and so forth.  The Koran has basically what I call a neutralizer in which it has peaceful verses, but the problem with these peaceful verses is that they have been abrogated.  Westerners are not familiar with the abrogation of the Koran.  You will find verses that say there is no compulsion in religion, then you will find a verse that says oh ye who believe murder those of disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.

Sid:  So tell me is this a correct statement, for my Moslem neighbor to be really peace loving they must not follow all the verses of the Koran?  Is that a true statement?

Walid:  That is a correct statement.  In other words they could be peaceful not because of Islam but despite of Islam.

Sid:  Okay, now I have a book in my hands called “God’s War on Terror.”  This is a result of your studies, of your education, of your pouring through the scriptures and of your knowledge of Islam; you have changed along with a number of other people I respect, modern day prophecy teachers, the whole paradigm for end times.  Why did most of us get it wrong?   Why did we see the antichrist coming out of Europe?  Why did we, why did we miss it, in your opinion?

Walid:  Well, the answer is twofold.   Number One, most western theologians have favorite verses in which they basically ignored verses in the Bible that really talked about an Islamic paradigm.  You look at Daniel 11 you know.  They forgot that Daniel 11 it says that he does honor a god of war, he does not honor woman, they forgot to look at Ezekiel 30:28 which talks about the antichrist as the prince of Tier with a conglomerate of nations that goes into the pit with him.  That’s the first fold of the answer.  The second fold is that they have been teaching, there is many many many western theologians have always taught that Islam is the antichrist system.  You look at John Wesley; you look at Hilaire Belloc or Gregory Palamas, Josiah Leach, Zelo of Jerusalem, Josfrienious, Maxim us the Confessor, John of Damascus, Elogius, Paul Elva us, the martyrs of …

Sid:  And yet I was raised in American Christianity after becoming a believer coming from a traditional Jewish background and I didn’t hear the things that you are teaching in this book.

Walid:  Well yes, because what happened in the last thirty years was a “Great Planet Earth” by Hal Lindsey was focused a lot when the European Union was created.  And when Greece joined as the tenth nation the majority of prophecy scholars began to think perhaps that’s the revival of the Roman Empire but that is ludicrous because if we want to revive the Roman Empire what do we do about North Africa, which is mentioned in the Bible by the way by name; Libya the foot; this is North Africa.  What about Turkey, the eastern leg of the Roman Empire, did we put that on the wayside?  In other words they began to focus on the west only and in the European Union only as the conglomerate of the antichrist kingdom ignoring the hundreds of references in literal fashion in the Bible of countries that are nothing but Muslim.  In other words, all the countries mentioned in the Bible that God deals with in the ends of time are Muslim, including all the nations that Christ fights when He comes down to earth are also Muslim.  You look at …

Sid:  So if you don’t have the paradigm of these are Muslim nations and this is Islam you’ll miss it.  Now, going back to your discussion with President Obama, he thinks Allah is a synonym for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  Is it?

Walid:  Well, I would like to greet him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, my God and the Muslim God.  If a Muslim would say yes, then that means I have a convert.  If a Muslim says no, that means they are not the same God because my God is a Son of a living God.  Islam denies the Trinity, Islam came…

Sid:  But, Allah actually is the name of a deity, but not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, isn’t that correct?

Walid:  That is correct; Allah has always been worshipped pre Islam, even Mohammed the prophet of Islam his name Muhammad Ibn Abd Allah Ibn Abdu al-Muttalib Ibn Ascham.  Muhammad, son of…

Sid:  Oh, I’ll tell you our time is just skipping away, you have been mentored in things of the Spirit, I want to mentor you now in end time Bible prophecy so that you can really fulfill your destiny… 

Sid:  That middle wall its down, Jews are coming to the Lord, Muslims are coming to the Lord, and we are about ready to see the greatest army the world has ever seen, the Body of Messiah, the One New Man.  Stand up and walk in the authority that God has given us.  But it’s important to understand the things of the Spirit and that’s what I mentor you in and equip you for.  But if you don’t understand Bible prophecy, then why are you being equipped with all of this power?  You don’t have a track to run on and if you understand Bible prophecy and you don’t understand the things of the Spirit you are not going to be able to accomplish all that God had for you.  And that’s why my guest is Walid Shoebat and I can see why God chose him to give him understanding to the mysteries of end times based on the Bible because your whole paradigm is wrong.   And one of the reasons your paradigm is wrong is you are listening to things in the political arena rather than looking at the word of God and those that are looking at the word of God have the wrong paradigm.  For instance, in the United States of America President Bush coined the phrase that “Islam is a peace loving religion.”  And then President Obama piggybacked on that “Islam is a peace loving religion.”  Well my guest, Walid Shoebat was born in Bethlehem; he was raised to be a Muslim terrorist.  He had an encounter with Jesus through the Bible and he’s never been the same since.  So Walid, if you could sit eyeball to eyeball with President Obama discussing the subject, “Islam is a peace loving religion,” what would you say to him?

Walid:  Well, the peaceful Mohammed the Prophet but of Islam executed the Jews abundant in Saudi Arabia?  Was it peaceful when Herod and Waleed conquered Persia, chopped so many heads off in the ravine in which the blood coagulated and he swore to kill thousand upon thousands of Persians?  Was it peaceful when—–invaded Spain and he cooked Christians in the Ottoman Empire, was it peaceful when Sudan masquerd over a million Christians, was it peaceful when the —empower executed hundreds of thousands of Christians, the Christians of Smyrna?  And the Armenian Christians?  This is the ludicrous remark.

Sid:  But wait a second Walid, in the Koran there are a lot of passages about Islam as peace loving. 

Walid:  Well, Shalom Aleichem the greeting in Islamic method when you day Shalom Aleichem, you cannot say Shalom Aleichem.   Muslim number one we have to understand this; the Islamic Sharia.   Number two, the term peace in Islam is already coined in Islam.  The world lives in two spheres, the peace of Islam and the peace in the sphere of Shalom, peace.  But the sphere of peace in Islam is regarding the nations that will be forced into Islam to become in the house of peace.

Sid:  So we can be peaceful if we bow to Islam, but if we don’t what’s going to happen to us?

Walid:  That is correct, I mean what’s going to happen is that you will be forced to bow towards Mecca or lose your head.

Sid:  But, let’s take America, there are many Moslems.  They are educated, they’re nice, there our neighbors, they wouldn’t think of strapping a suicide bomb to themselves, they’re peace loving.

Walid:  Well, if you asked that Muslim would you denounce Sharia what would they say?  In other words, it’s not only the explosive act that determines whether a person is peaceful or not, it’s their support act, it is rare to find a Muslim that would say I would denounce Sharia.  This is in fact impossibility.

Sid:  Okay, if they do not denounce Sharia and Sharia law came to America, what would America be like?

Walid:  Well, those so called peaceful Muslim will become fully with —- to Sharia.  There would be punishments which is called Ad dud in Islam.  Basically woman will have half their rights of a man; the testimony in the court of law is considered half the testimony of a male counterpart.

Sid:  And again, by Sharia law, we’re talking about law as influenced by the Koran, but go ahead.

Walid:  Absolutely, in other words Islam has no regards for woman in fact this is what shook me when I read the Bible in Genesis, I will put enmity between you (the devil) and the woman, boy that opened my eyes.  And when I got to Daniel chapter eleven it says very clearly, “He will not honor the desire of woman, he does not give woman their wants and their needs that is not say he doesn’t desire woman that means he’s homosexual as many westerners think.  No, he doesn’t honor woman because the son of perdition, the antichrist is like the father of lies, no different.  He will also hate woman, this gives us a different concept about the antichrist, even the concept of him being an atheist is ludicrous because if you look at Daniel 11 he honors a god of war and he advances this god which the Bible tells us is a foreign god.

Sid:  So, if I understand what you are saying is there are Muslim in America that are peace loving, but once they would not deny the Islamic law the Sharia law, and once that is instituted then they are going to be in agreement with some of these things.  Now, what does Koran say about Jews and Christians?

Walid:  Well, it’s very clear in the Koran, it says not to trust the Jews or the Christians, do not make friends with the Jews or the Christians and it has a litany of statements about the Jews converting to monkeys and pigs and so on and so forth.  The Koran has basically what I call a neutralizer in which it has peaceful verses, but the problem with these peaceful verses is that they have been abrogated.  Westerners are not familiar with the abrogation of the Koran.  You will find verses that say there is no compulsion in religion, then you will find a verse that says oh ye who believe murder those of disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.

Sid:  So tell me is this a correct statement, for my Moslem neighbor to be really peace loving they must not follow all the verses of the Koran?  Is that a true statement?

Walid:  That is a correct statement.  In other words they could be peaceful not because of Islam but despite of Islam.

Sid:  Okay, now I have a book in my hands called “God’s War on Terror.”  This is a result of your studies, of your education, of your pouring through the scriptures and of your knowledge of Islam; you have changed along with a number of other people I respect, modern day prophecy teachers, the whole paradigm for end times.  Why did most of us get it wrong?   Why did we see the antichrist coming out of Europe?  Why did we, why did we miss it, in your opinion?

Walid:  Well, the answer is twofold.   Number One, most western theologians have favorite verses in which they basically ignored verses in the Bible that really talked about an Islamic paradigm.  You look at Daniel 11 you know.  They forgot that Daniel 11 it says that he does honor a god of war, he does not honor woman, they forgot to look at Ezekiel 30:28 which talks about the antichrist as the prince of Tier with a conglomerate of nations that goes into the pit with him.  That’s the first fold of the answer.  The second fold is that they have been teaching, there is many many many western theologians have always taught that Islam is the antichrist system.  You look at John Wesley; you look at Hilaire Belloc or Gregory Palamas, Josiah Leach, Zelo of Jerusalem, Josfrienious, Maxim us the Confessor, John of Damascus, Elogius, Paul Elva us, the martyrs of …

Sid:  And yet I was raised in American Christianity after becoming a believer coming from a traditional Jewish background and I didn’t hear the things that you are teaching in this book.

Walid:  Well yes, because what happened in the last thirty years was a “Great Planet Earth” by Hal Lindsey was focused a lot when the European Union was created.  And when Greece joined as the tenth nation the majority of prophecy scholars began to think perhaps that’s the revival of the Roman Empire but that is ludicrous because if we want to revive the Roman Empire what do we do about North Africa, which is mentioned in the Bible by the way by name; Libya the foot; this is North Africa.  What about Turkey, the eastern leg of the Roman Empire, did we put that on the wayside?  In other words they began to focus on the west only and in the European Union only as the conglomerate of the antichrist kingdom ignoring the hundreds of references in literal fashion in the Bible of countries that are nothing but Muslim.  In other words, all the countries mentioned in the Bible that God deals with in the ends of time are Muslim, including all the nations that Christ fights when He comes down to earth are also Muslim.  You look at …

Sid:  So if you don’t have the paradigm of these are Muslim nations and this is Islam you’ll miss it.  Now, going back to your discussion with President Obama, he thinks Allah is a synonym for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  Is it?

Walid:  Well, I would like to greet him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, my God and the Muslim God.  If a Muslim would say yes, then that means I have a convert.  If a Muslim says no, that means they are not the same God because my God is a Son of a living God.  Islam denies the Trinity, Islam came…

Sid:  But, Allah actually is the name of a deity, but not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, isn’t that correct?

Walid:  That is correct; Allah has always been worshipped pre Islam, even Mohammed the prophet of Islam his name Muhammad Ibn Abd Allah Ibn Abdu al-Muttalib Ibn Ascham.  Muhammad, son of…

Sid:  Oh, I’ll tell you our time is just skipping away, you have been mentored in things of the Spirit, I want to mentor you now in end time Bible prophecy so that you can really fulfill your destiny…

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